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The Virus, Suppression or Elimination?

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Oh, what a tangled web they weave,
Those who practice to deceive.

So many misdirected barbs, couched agendas, denial, denial.

Certainly the original lock-downs were relaxed too soon. No question.

But, look you gentlemen to those fuzzballs and strumpets who chose (and continue to choose) to ignore lockdown, ignore warnings, ignore responsibility for their own actions and their responsibility to the rest of the populace.

For shame, the arrogant, the easily-miss-led, and the counter-culture organisers of rallies/rants/lie-fests of vested-interests and sublimation of personal responsibility and accountability to all 'the Others' - the 'Racists' hiding behind every bush and under every toadstool.

Et tu Brute? Daggers to the throats of Gods and Senators beguiled into trusting 'the masses' - masses inconceivably concealing betrayers and arrogant nay-Sayers lying low, cloaked in subterfuge, cowering, cringing, plotting.

'Me, myself, I' shriek the nay-Sayers! No blessed trumped-up lockdown for Me!

Look to conscience, gentlemen and gentle women, and to the vipers crouching in the chicken-poop.

All Hail! China strikes a goal, unwittingly, unintended and heartily regretted - by virtue of striking the soft-spot, the vulnerability of Western Arrogance and Self-reverence. Me, Myself, I.
Posted by Saltpetre, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 12:40:03 PM
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Loudie, look at the graph for Sweden (my last post), achieved without lockdown, i.e without curfews, enforced closures of whole industries and businesses, people confined for 23-hrs per day etc, but, within people behaving normally and going about their lives within distancing, mask-wearing and hygiene guidelines (except for the vulnerable, who quarantine themselves and are aided by the government to do so, as are those who must isolate due to infection), designed to slow spread but not eliminate the virus.

Nobody is proposing just to let the virus 'rip', a hyperbolic position used by the elimination brigade to characterize opposition to their grand experiment on the populace.

Please explain why your projections should be put ahead of the actual experience of Sweden. Lockdown is a hysterical response to the fact some will have their lives shortened by the virus en route to herd-immunity while others are having their lives shortened by the short and long-term effects of lockdown. This is not to suggest that Sweden will not see any life shortening from economic impacts, but this will be mitigated by its current actions. For example, its future debt will not be ruinous to its ability to provide health, education, welfare, social housing and programs, etc. while debt will be a millstone around our national neck for decades to come.
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 2:15:43 PM
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Luciferase,

So 5,646 deaths so far in Sweden - with a smaller population than Australia's - is a monumental success ?

Amazing. How do you communicate with Earth from your planet ?

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 3:02:52 PM
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Interesting that in Germany on the weekend some estimated close to a million people marching on the streets against tight lockdowns also believing masks make them slaves. Of course the lying liberal media will label all these conspiracy theorist while our own Government funded media is almost silent pushing the ever changing norman swan doctrine. I would of thought it newsworthy even if you are in agreement with whoever today's 'experts' are.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 3:50:54 PM
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runner,

If the German peoples are not fighting someone across the border then they'll just find something amongst themselves to fight about.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 3:58:26 PM
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runner,don't know about a million, I don't believe there are that many far right extremists, along with their supports from religious fundos, Trumpsters, to conspiracy theorists, and general fruitcakes in Germany.

Happy to see ScumO' has pulled out of backing Fat Clive in his selfish attempt to open up WA to tne far porker and a billion deadly viruses.

Not happy to see ScumO' claiming "We are all in this Together!" only to let a fat cat from DFAT walk into Queensland with the virus from Afghanistan, no checks, no questions asked. Was this a special case?

The NSW Health Minister, The Hazard, has done it gain, after the Ruby Princess and Newmarch House stuff ups, he's now letting people from Victoria walk out of Sydney Airport and go on their merry way.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 5:21:44 PM
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