So Belly you would submit to China with its human rights record, instead of challenging them as Trump does! Oh I remember now; you are a Communist supporter, that believes the mantra, "down with Capitalism, it is destroying the Planet". I must have got it wrong again, "China is burning all our coal and releasing its CO2". The Free Democratic World is scared stiff we might have to go to war with China, so we just surrender to their agenda. Do not disturb the tiger.

Belly you must have first hand ear to the President's phone calls to claim he broke the Law by withholding the money. There was no withholding of the money, stop listening to the fake news and listen to the facts spoken by the people present in the impeachment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ulWTJUQsVY
Democrats make up the evidence, and fail to understand you do not give money unless it is properly appropriated.

"The Free Democratic World"

Which world are you referring to Josephus?

- Reality Check Required -

Hmmm, no crime because he didn't carry the threat out...

That's kind of crap reasoning too btw Josephus

Do they just make up the rules as they go and everyone just goes along with it or ?

- As a complete hypothetical -

Let's say I openly threaten to:
- slash the tyres on your car, burn your house down and harm your loved ones;

Lets say I openly threatened to do these things.
And then lets say I 'chose' not to actually do any of thee things I threatened to do;

'Nope, I've changed my mind, decided I'm not going to do that now.'

I'll say "Hey it was all just a joke, I never ACTUALLY did any of those things."

- But just because I haven't actually done any of those things, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't committed a crime by making the earlier threats to do so.

Of course Trump threatened to withhold the money.
But Biden did the exact same thing.

They're all as bad as each other but what this is really about was not that Trump tried to coerce a foreign leader to do his bidding, but that he was looking for the server to investigate them.

In this scenario of course they will release classified phone calls and start an impeachment because this guys poking around threatens to expose ALL THE STUFF they've been doing.

They always try to distract away from the real issue after the public becomes complacent.

It's the same with Assange and Wikileaks;
- There's no denial that any of the crimes Assange showed were taking place, and there's no punishment for any of those crimes.
They make it about what Assange did not what they were doing.

You idiots fall for it everytime.

AC, Trump is considered GUILTY by the Democrats, and they are posing the accusations of guilt to the public, and it will continue until the next election that Trump is guilty; with the intent that he is a criminal. The CNN link I posted is a six hour hearing and is worth a listen to pick up the vibes.

Even Belly and Foxy say he did the crime! Yet neither Trump or the whistle blower have not appeared before the congress. However a fair trial is not going to happen as his accuser [whistle blower] is not been cross questioned on his evidence. It is a made up charge as a political stunt to damage Trumps credentials.

However I have sources that the Afro-American population are moving toward Trump, as 2,000 Afro-American pastors are supporting him in their congregations moving away from Democrats whom they voted for in 2016.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/everyone-was-in-the-loop-ambassador-confirms-quid-pro-quo-in-bombshell-testimony-20191121-p53ckd.html
This story, a full understanding of who this Ambassador was and is, highlights very very real trouble ahead
It underlines a complete fraud, scammer man who refuses to show his tax details, can get elected head of the free world
It proves truth is not a player, that he, his supporters, backers morning Mr Murdock, care nothing for honesty
Maybe the thread about climate emergency is secondary to this truth Russia and China have hugely, benefited from Trumps circus being in the White House
Our very freedom maybe a victim in years to come as America skates on ever thinner ice

" this morning we read about a Trump fan, appointed by him, who says Trump used his position to? break the law"

Belly,

Where did it say that what they assert Trump did, is illegal.

Meanwhile, in news your selected sources won't bother to tell you, Ukraine prosecutors have subpoenaed the founder of Burisma concerning embezzlement and 'legalising' stolen funds. Love that term 'legalising' - it means laundering. Burisma you won't recall, was the company that employed baby-Biden and paid him millions because he did such a great job. (/sarc). The payments had nothing at all to do with buying off his daddy...no really - perish the thought.

They are also looking at aid funds sent by the US being stolen by past presidents. Trump always said he wanted to withhold the funds until he could be certain the new Ukrainian leadership was above-board...now we know why.

You won't buy it or even understand it Belly, but its all falling apart for the Democrats.

AC,

"no crime because he didn't carry the threat out"

No crime because there was no threat. And even if there was a threat, it was not illegal. It happens all the time in international affairs...just ask that nice Mr Biden...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY