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Australia slipping further into China's sphere of influence

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Was Paul 1405 around in the 1930s to know what Australians thought about what the Japanese did to the Chinese?
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 3 October 2019 12:27:10 PM
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My father and others were. I learnt much from such people ttbn.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 3 October 2019 12:35:39 PM
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Well on this issue of WW2 I made two points:

1. That the story perpetrated by the ALP that Menzies was behind the Brisbane Line proposal was a myth.

A Royal commission looked at the issue and found it utterly wrong. The claims that the documentation was hidden was looked at by the RC and found to be utterly wrong. No one here has offered anything to disavow the simple truth. That they want to blame Menzies is clear but there's nothing in an record that supports their wishes. Australia most defintely did develop a type of Brisbane Line but it was done by the military for very logic reasons and was prepared AFTER Menzies had left office.

But as with the pig-iron myth Paul just wants it to be true, and that trumps any and all facts.

2) That the Japanese never had any intention of invading Australia. Again, some don't want that to be true so concoct all sorts of counter-arguments none of which have the slightest relationship to actual Japanese intentions. Somehow, in their fevered minds, the fact that many Australians feared the invasion proves that the Japanese were going to invade. Somehow, the clear documentary evidence from Japanese army archives that the proposal was looked at (briefly) and comprehensively rejected, is ignored. Because they don't want it to be true.

By the way Foxy, here's the link that you are so struggling to retrospectively supply...http://archive.is/qzVqn
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 3 October 2019 1:03:59 PM
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""well they are only Chinamen!""

I call BS.

The fact is that the Japanese were very effective at hiding what they did in China.

The disaster of the Rape of Nanking really only became clear after the war. There were some pre-war murmurings but very little evidence. The Japanese clearly weren't talking about it, and the main westerners in the city at the time were mostly German and in many cases Nazi. They weren't about to dob on their ally.

So it wasn't a case of ignoring the issue for racist reasons. It was a case of being ignorant of the issue.

Relying on what some partisan tells you 30 years later is never a good policy.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 3 October 2019 1:10:08 PM
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I'm sure you did learn a lot from them Paul, including your devotion to Leftism, which colours your opinions and beliefs.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 3 October 2019 1:45:34 PM
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mhaze,

You stated that - "Relying on what some partisan tells
you 30 years later is never good policy."

Tell that to the Holocaust survivors and other war
victims.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 3 October 2019 1:50:35 PM
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