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The Real illegal Immigration Problem

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Paul

"Between 2016 and 2017 the Department of Home Affairs tracked down 15,885 people who were overstaying their visas and kicked them out of the country or placed them in detention."

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-it-s-like-to-be-a-visa-overstayer-in-australia

Secondly, your figure of roughly 1100 over-stayers that stay for an extended period of time blows a hole in your argument that over-stayers are a bigger problem than illegal boat people especially when compared to the more than 10 000 to 20 000 coming in per year under the incompetent labor/green coalition.

The article shows how little the government spends on illegal overstayers compared to the $10bn spent on illegal boat arrivals.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 8 February 2019 9:23:39 AM
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Paul etc claims to be above throwing tantrums after being exposed as a fact-free zone...and then proceeds to throw a tantrum eg "Is English your second language?", "your lack of an education".

I won't bother to dignify these outbursts with a rebuttal. Anyone who's read any of my posts will form their own opinion about Paul's assertions.

Paul, who made his initial claims without bothering to check to see if they were true, now demands that I, after proving them to be untrue, provide even more evidence of his error.

It seems being 100% wrong isn't enough for Paul. You'd think he'd be used to it by now.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 8 February 2019 12:46:46 PM
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mhaze, you used the word data, without actually providing any data. As for policy, there was a smidgen of policy in a few wishy-washy words from One Nation, nothing of value. Nothing at all concrete from Bernnardi's Australian Conservatives, except for a vague claim that Bernardi had been verbally posturing on the matter at some stage, no proof provided.

Pauline Hanson admits to not being the sharpest tool in the shed, looks like her supporters on the forum are also rather blunt edged as well.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 8 February 2019 1:25:14 PM
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"you used the word data, without actually providing any data."

I, unlike you, provided actual data as regards all those who you sought to malign.

You just make claims that you hope are true or hope no-one will bother checking and then get pissed off when they are checked and found to be as untrue as it is possible to be.

And then your only lament is that the policies that you said didn't exist aren't as wordy as you think they should be.

Still its nice to see you trying to defend one of your bozo assertions rather than just leaving the thread when you false claims become untenable. I guess that's progress of a sort.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 8 February 2019 1:48:56 PM
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Paul1405 Does the refugee convention also say they have to register in the first country, rather than rather than shop around for the most stupid country that will give them the best welfare.

Paul1405 You put things in quotation marks but can't name the source of the statement.

Belly can't you make a comment without addressing it to Paul, give your brown nosing a rest.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 8 February 2019 5:26:32 PM
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mhaze, what DATA did you provide. The only concrete evidence provided that either One Nation or the Australian Conservatives have any kind of policy to deal with the growing number of overstayers is this;

"ONE NATION will ensure that the detection of illegal migrants for deportation is properly funded and administered."

A vague 17 word generalised policy, nothing specific that cover overstayers.

Nothing is presented for the Australian Conservatives, their policy is determined by Corny Banana on the run.

I wonder just how much ignorance of politics is based on a lack of policy. Perhaps mhaze can let us know.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 8 February 2019 6:05:15 PM
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