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The Real illegal Immigration Problem

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Paul,
On ABC news website there is now a story about us targeting Suadi women (it will not provide a link) related to your post.

If you think we are not doing enough to find the illegals here then you or the greens can always raise the issue with government.

We could always make it more difficult for tourists, but that seems a bit silly just to nab a couple more working girls and a few backpackers.
Posted by HenryL, Monday, 4 February 2019 10:49:25 AM
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HenryL, the SMH link does not have a paywall.

"A Senate committee has heard (from the representative of the Department of Immigration and Border Protection) as of June 30 there was an estimated 64,600 visa overstayers in the country"

That is the estimated figure as at 30th June 2017.

Henry you claim // Inquiries (by whom) revealed that the vast majority were tourists who overstayed by a few days or weeks and then left after enjoying more of our sights and hospitality.//

Not withstanding their visa clearly states the expiry date, and these people choose to flout Australian law.

Okay lets try to work out the ones that might fit Henry's description of overstaying tourists;

12,000 have been here 20 years or more. (not tourists)
11,000 2 to 5 years (not tourists)
6,600 15 to 20 years (not tourists)

In fact the department estimates that only about 5000 people are believed to have overstayed for three months or less. Some of those would be on student and work visas, other would be visiting relatives. And of course some would be here for those criminal reasons.

Henry your "vast majority were tourists" "enjoying more of our sights and hospitality." does not stack up. If it was the whole 5,000 possibles that's less than 8%.

As for //So all in all the matter is a strawman and no one is concerned, especially when the tourist industry brings in so much to the economy.// That doesn't seem to apply to the Australian Senate, held an enquiry into the whole affair.

Henry can you answer my question, since One Nation and the Australian Conservatives are so out there on the question of "illegals" as they like to call some seeking asylum as refugees. Why don't they have a policy to deal with the far greater number of overstayers.

BTW, there is no such person as an illegal asylum seeker. Anyone arriving here as a refugee can ask for asylum. Donald Trump could come here and claim to be a refugee seeking asylum, it would not be illegal.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 4 February 2019 11:02:18 AM
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Paul is concerned about those that came by plane, but considers those that came by boat legitimate. Please identify the race you feel others are concerned about if you believe the One Nation and Australian Conservatives are racist.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 4 February 2019 11:06:43 AM
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Now let's see. We have around 20000 overstayers who've been here for over 15 yrs.

Now who's been in power and able to resolve this problem in that time:

Well the Libs/Nats...twice and

The Labs for 6 of those years. And for a period during that 6 years the Greens were in coalition with the ALP.

But somehow, in the fevered minds of the left wing whiners, its all the fault of " Pauline Hanson's One Nation and Cory Bernardi's Australian Conservative " - or at least they're the only ones that get a mention.

Funny how the people's minds (for lack of a better term) work.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 4 February 2019 11:19:31 AM
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Paul one thing is clear the very real danger, that being the rabid right, do not like the greens
And while finding posts about that right offending use such against the greens
It is ok, this election will prove they have an even smaller support base
Now tell me why, apart from a truth, they are a bit lost, refusing to see the numbers supporting them
More importantly opposing them
Your thread even saw a figure of tens of thousands of over stayers, said to be unimportant
That quote was at least 10 times the number in offshore detention
Posted by Belly, Monday, 4 February 2019 11:54:22 AM
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Foxy - NO amazing facts not one as for this "according to the link over stayers who have been in the country for 20 years." THAT WAS IN THE ARTICLE as well as a breakdown by country.

SO again please provide 4 amazing facts, you can because like most of your rubbish links here is what it is

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Belly Quote "Paul you I see have got a virus in the thread already" Gee and you sit alone all sad and wonder why people insult me, you bring it upon yourself.

Also "Your thread even saw a figure of tens of thousands of over stayers, said to be unimportant
That quote was at least 10 times the number in offshore detention"

Are you so naive they don't cost us anything near what the economic welfare for life invaders cost.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 4 February 2019 12:48:31 PM
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