Armchair Critic- You can't expect Foxy to see things another way she has taken the cool-aid they feed people in Universities and Government Departments. Ayn Rand has been known to have a similar effect on some people though on the other side of the spectrum. It would take something extraordinary to change the way she sees the world. Maybe it's even to her benefit- that would explain a lot. That's ok it will come soon- hopefully enough people wake up in the meantime. It's sad to see my families history come to an end after thousands of years. When my families descendants ask me what happened at least I can point to the comments and say "I tried".

Foxy- I'll need to get back to your comments later. But a tidbit... Everyone spreads propaganda (and disinformation)- that's why it's important to look at the journalist principles- who, what, why, where, how- when judging the quality of comments. People have an internal (what they really believe) and external dialogues (their propaganda)- some like Kant are notoriously and intentionally naive and believe their own propaganda. A policy that I sometimes use "Don't tell people how to think- just get them to think."

Canem Malum,

I'm not going to argue with you on any topic.
My European background is
something of which - I am very proud - as you are of
your ancestry and neither of us should be at odds
with the other. However your comment to Armchair
Critic about me was uncalled for as you don't really
know anything about me. I shall be more careful of
responding to you in the future. You obviously are
not the debater that I thought you were. Don't bother
responding to me. I shan't be reading it.

Foxy,
Have you ever heard the saying:
'The road to hell is paved with good intentions?'

I think you are a well meaning person.
But one that ignorantly lays those pavers for their entire nations future.

But it's not 'really' your nation is it?
I hypothesise that you don't see yourself as being an Australian any more than you see yourself as an immigrant right?

And because you primarily see yourself as an immigrant, you'll always vote for more immigrants.
The difference between you and me is I don't see myself as an immigrant.

What I can't understand is why do you sell us out?
How can people who think of themselves as decent be the complete opposite?
It kind of makes you a wolf in sheep's clothing, does it not?

You say you love the values of freedom, democracy, the law, and equal opportunity, but is what you proclaim not a complete contradiction instead?
Islam does not care for our way of life, it destroys it.
I challenge you to prove otherwise.

In my opinion you'd have to be dead, dumb and Downe Syndrome not to recognise the damage to western nations in Islam's wake.

You see it seems to me that you don't really care how many are raped and killed for what you believe though you like using words that make others think you do.
In your mind those statistics don't exist.
All you believe in is some fairytale where Muslims, Infidels and Homosexuals all live together in some ridiculous utopia where everyone just magically gets along.

You don't support Australians, you support Muslims;
I'm not sure it's actually possible for one to have their cake and eat it too.

[Cont.]
You see my family's been here for 8 or 9 generations.
Why would I see myself as an immigrant Foxy? Why? It doesn't make sense.

If your ignorance of thinking Australia is just a nation of immigrants like you consider yourself, gatecrashing the country long after ANZAC happened, then you'll always vote for more immigrants like welfare votes for more welfare.

And people like my family, who've been here for generations, well you forget that we're not immigrants like you who came yesterday, you ignore the fact that some families have been here for centuries making it what it is (or was) and you spit in our faces as you sell the nation out for your pie in the sky beliefs, which is really just ignorant 'useful idiot' support of the New World Order.

When I started this conversation I did so well aware of our current world, a place that highlights the worst in one faith, to the extent like it or not, in just this country any party seen as likely to let the boat refugees recomence will never be elected, truth is hard to take but remains true,I saw open arms policy in the EU, slowly turn, even Britain leaving the EU, what ever reason politicians gave, was voters showing concern about this very issue,hence an understanding in ten twenty or even 50 years these trends will have big impacts on us all,no not open racism, just truth.yes I found reason to both defend the average Muslim, but too to highlight my view no faith ever should have any control over me or my life, too that some true evil lives within this faith, kills many thousands more Muslims than it kills us,continued

I have no choice, to ignore this morning's news is to say it does not matter a Wife of a charged terrorist yesterday had her wish to wear clothing covering her face, knocked back by the judge,what was her reason for wanting to do that? we are told it is not part of the Islamic faith,was her reason to show a difference? or to confront? why do we creep and crawl around the truth in our need to not be racist? Scotts men do not wear their countries garb,Greeks unless going to an event do not, YOU and I would not! ever! be able to dress as we please in say Saudi Arabia! yes racism is dumb, but plenty of not well informed folk will see the events I highlighted as reason to hate,two questions why in my country must I who believe in no God change to fit in with theirs? and when will the few change to fit in with my culture, 50 years a longtime sure to be changes sure more terrorist deaths and not so sure humanity will mature in those years