ttbn- Thanks for your post.

Our democracy is robust enough to withstand overt unhelpful
speech being spouted by some in their attempt to spread
misinformation and fear. People who see multiculturalism
and immigrants as "strangers" culturally different from
everybody else. People we should not allow into this
country. Despite the fact that we are a nation of immigrants.
We don't want any more?

In the meantime our population is ageing and needs someone
not only to support it but provide services in looking after
it. No wonder the Prime Minister has a lot to deal with.
That, and the ambitious and ruthless men within his own party.

Canem Malum,

Kudos to you as well, for continuing with well reasoned,
intelligent, and civil discussions. A great addition
to this forum.

//so the only hope of dudding the dictators is an AC vote in the senate at the next election.//

No it's not. There are plenty of other minor parties to choose from.

Voting for Cory's Tories isn't going to achieve much of practical value... they'll always vote with the Coalition, because the alternative would be voting with Labour and because they're Tories they'll never ever do that as it would be a betrayal of their Tory principles. For all the actual difference it would make to Senate votes, you might as well just vote Coalition in the Senate.

The advantage of voting for the Coalition in the Senate over Cory's Tories is that if we can keep the latter out of the Senate the media will stop paying attention to Bernardi Gras, to the great relief of most of us.

We too can not afford to overlook the very real pain one word multiculturalism has bought by replacing integration, show me the 1945 till 1960 migrants who do not both have their own culture and in part ours, tell me how the slums of France are other than ghettos? tell me why WASP should change to fit in with others but those others need not? tell me, and the majority in any western country we should not have opinions that question the need for many cultures in one country

Iftikhar,

I don't think that there is any problem with orderly skilled migration and believe that many of the problems occurring in the west are due to the unjustifiably entitled attitude that many economic refugees express. I don't believe that any country has made promises to immigrants and only Germany has ever come anywhere near extending an invitation to refugees.

The fuzzy logic that some have expressed that fighting climate change, world poverty etc will make any difference to the illegal migrant flow is ludicrous, as the issues are so large and there are so few that are trying, that it is farting against thunder.

Foreign aid makes the donor countries feel better but other than a handful of people the vast majority of the money finds its way into the hands of the corrupt local leaders, or to the fat cats running the charities.

The Paris agreement is also a joke as China has made bugger all effort, and countries like Germany have rising emissions due to the idiot demands that nuclear power stations are closed, with the prize for emission reductions going to the USA who has withdrawn and France with its nuclear power stations.