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How many animal libbers are hypocrites?

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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:49 AM
Subject: [alqld] live export, cattle to mexico, Dr jailed, dumped cat, MLA shame,

DEATH SHIPS: ANGER GROWS AS SHEEP EXPORT TOLL HITS 40,000

Sept 21 - ABOUT 40,000 sheep died at sea as part of Australia's $700
million live animal export trade last year.

Concern about the number of deaths has prompted animal rights
advocates to prepare a global campaign against the practice, but the
Federal Government says the death rate is "reasonable".

A report from the West Australian Department of Agriculture and Food
said almost 40,000 sheep were lost at sea in 2005, up from 30,000
deaths in 2004.

A separate report to Federal Parliament covering the period from
November last year to May this year showed the death toll for sheep at
17,464 from 35 shipments to Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar,
the United Arab Emirates, Singapore and Bahrain.

On one 19-day voyage from Fremantle to Jeddah, 1804 sheep died out of
106,730 being transported. On another 27-day trip from Portland and
Devonport to Jebel Ali, Bahrain, Kuwait and Doha, 1683 of 71,309 sheep
died.

The RSPCA's president, Hugh Wirth, said a campaign would soon be
launched for a worldwide ban on the long-distance transport of animals
for slaughter.

The Agriculture Minister, Peter McGauran, said the report showed 99.17
per cent of sheep arrived at their destination alive.

"The percentage of stock losses is the best measure of the performance
of the livestock export industry, as they put the numbers into
perspective," Mr McGauran said.

"The livestock export industry and producer groups accept there are
legitimate community concerns about animal welfare, and they are
working with the Government and animal welfare groups to continually
improve their performance."

Dr Wirth said the mortality rate should not be the only measure of
animal welfare.

Phillip Hudson

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/09/20/1158431784440.html
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DAIRY HEIFERS TO MEXICO A LIFELINE TO WA INDUSTRY
Posted by TarynW, Saturday, 30 September 2006 11:35:03 AM
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My observation about the keyboard was correct then. Thanks for verifying that Tamyn. So, all you girls sit around in a huddle at the pale ‘office’ do you. Do you all get together to think up this rubbish?

Let it go on public record that I have never picked up a phone and called PALE in my entire life. Your phone records ( and mine) should sort that lie out for you. And also for the public record, yes some people have rung the RSPCA for clarification of the .. in conj RSPCA QLD thing and it has been confirmed that, outside of live exports, PALE has no right at all to use the RSPCA name. In fact, I believe they have been told to cease immediately.

No one here has made mention of PALE until you just brought it up. You are doing just as good a job of defaming your own organization as wendy did. Its time to move on Tamyn before you do it even more damage.
Posted by pigfarmer, Saturday, 30 September 2006 11:44:25 AM
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Yes, campaign manager Tamyn, all your hard work is evident:

Live sheep exports up for year
Australia
Friday, 22 September 2006

Australian live sheep exports were bolstered during July as solid demand for Ramadan increased shipments, particularly to Saudi Arabia.

A total of 298,984 head were exported for the month, 15pc higher than the same period last year.

The value of July exports totalled A$21.8 million FOB – 22pc higher than in July 2005.

The average value of sheep exports in July totalled A$73/head FOB, an increase of $4/head FOB on both the June 2006 and July 2005 averages.

Live sheep exports for the first seven months of 2006 were 6pc up on the same period last year, at 1.9 million head.

With Ramadan commencing in late September and ending with the Eid il Fitr celebrations in late October, demand for Australian sheep has been reportedly strong through August and into September.

Demand should remain strong across the entire period of Ramadan and during the Eid il Fitr celebrations.

However, reports from the Middle East region suggest that there is continuing competition from cheaper sheep from alternative suppliers such as Somalia, with some concern from importers over the price of Australian sheep.

BTW I have always been anti live export, i am just tired of going around in circles with the same arguements. Just talking about it will achieve nothing. Like most things, it all comes down to price. This may be your salvation (if you can put a good spin on it and claim it as a victory)
Posted by pigfarmer, Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:22:24 PM
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MLA MANAGER QUITS OVER HACKING SCANDAL

Sept 22 - After almost a month-long investigation, a computer hacking
scandal engulfing Meat and Livestock Australia (MLA) has claimed its
first and perhaps only scalp.

Late last month, it was revealed MLA staff members had hacked into an
online poll on the National Livestock Identification System.

Today, the head of MLA's National Livestock Identification Unit,
Christian Mulders, has resigned.

ABC has confirmed Mr Mulders has resigned.

It is unclear whether he was directly involved in the poll tampering
or has taken the fall for others.

Disciplinary action has been taken against a number of other employees
but MLA managing director David Palmer has refused to be interviewed.

Australian Beef Association head Linda Hewitt, who raised the alarm
over the hacking scandal, remains deeply sceptical.

Cattle Council president Bill Bray says he is satisfied with MLA's
handling of the incident and work will now start to rebuild farmer
confidence in the peak body.

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/2006/s1746386.htm


The funds spent to promote live exports from the industry should stay in Australia.

The Howard Government must keep the publics funds to be spent here!

Yes the MLA and others are funded 50 50 percent from the industry and you! the tax payer.

The People say no to the cruel live export trade Mr Howard and No to your spending and sending our! public funds overseas.


The Public Say Ban Live Exports. So use some of our tax funds to build more abattoirs in Australia John Howard.
I will supply plenty of footage to the Australian People John Howard If I have to walk around Australia and door knock and invite the media and others to join.

You now have the Popes support John Howard Its its now official , Churches Are Resposible to stop Animal Cruelty.

http://www.livexports.com/afic.html
http://www.livexports.com/hughwirth.html

Your a lucky man Prime Minister. You have the Leaders of The Australian Federational Of Islamic Council Supporting slaughtering here in Australia and denouncing the cruelty of the unessary live animal export trade.

Now the Pope.

Sounds like a recipe for world peace.

Ban Live Exports John Howard
Posted by TarynW, Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:29:08 PM
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I have been lurking around the forum for a little while now. I was very interested in one particular arguement but before I could have a say it was squashed. Now that it seems to be back on the table, I would like to ask a question.

TarynW. As a representative of pale, do you think there is nothing wrong with posting someone elses private email to this forum?

You also made mention of the Pope. How is he now supporting the banning of live exports? Can you expand on that please?
Posted by butcherbob, Saturday, 30 September 2006 2:17:20 PM
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First Of All I do Not think You have just! Come On This Forum.

Otherwise you would not make such a silly comment.

As for the Pope Sure.

I will get it put on a link so everybody can read it as soon as possible.

The Pope has spoken before about these matters
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In the mean time why not read the information I already posted on Church Involvenment towards animal welfare.

You will not get me to comment on things that are now in the hands of lawyers Bob try as you may.

My concerns are to improve animal welfare.

Those of you that are against people speaking out about such matters must have something wrong with them, or something to hide.

Negative negative negative.

If I walk around all day and only get one person to put their name on a petition Bob, at least that is something.

Better than you trying to put me down because I care.

I should think from what I have seen others will need to have deep pockets

I will continue my work to help animals.

I am also starting some advertsing as soon as I can get some more people to help.

This is my own project Bob and I am very proud to have lots of people to come along and help with radio and newspaper adds.

Some of it is live exports and some basic every day domestic animals.

It is great to see so many interested.

So you want to start on trying to discreit me now as well do you?

I wouldnt.

My work with animals is something I care about deeply.


Yes pig farmer thats correct. That is why the WA co joint venture was done.

More need to follow in this wonderful example.

Thats doing something.
Posted by TarynW, Saturday, 30 September 2006 2:59:59 PM
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