We get much sanctamonious preaching on OLO from animal libbers,
about what should and could be done, alot of it pure dreamer
stuff.

How many of these people take milk in their coffee, tea or
cereal? Yet they would be aware that poor old Mama cow had
her baby ripped off her as a 1-2 day old, to satisfy their
selfish desires for milk. Why should I not call these
people hypocrites?

Yabby

Thats easy.

None!

Again you have got it all wrong because you dont listen. Or again you try to mislead the public. Nice try!
The People on the OLO are NOT Animal Libbers
Bar I think I saw three.
You wont get many libbers answer you I dont think.
They are on a higher moral ground to main stream ordinary people.
Didnt you know that Yabby.? You cant reason or speak to these people.
Main stream people are what I have seen on the forum.
That mostly includes the first post opended by Katrina.

Trouble is Yabby See how they run when the main stream people comment.
Voiceless have made some good moves to promote free range farms so you cant brand them as libbers either.
I know some people are trying but Brion Shermann and his family are main stream.
Its jolly good to see. RSPCA are main stream. Not Animal Liberation
People are actually working to find alternatives.
You of course are trying to block those people.

But to be fair I will answer your question Yabby.> How many Animal Libbers drink milk meat @

None or very few.

Animal liberation members that are extreme or vegans veg, would be highly offended that you would even suggest such a thing.!

I think you are trying to divert the attention from the other forum you old fox and brand main stream people as all animal libbers.

Your consistant I will give you that much.

Extreme people who will not discuss better methods and do more harm to animal welfare than good.

Good Luck you will have earned your thread if they come on mate.

Taryn, how you see yourself and how others see you are sometimes
not the same.

I notice that you avoided answering the question wether you drink
milk or not, as I had expected :)

Yabby, I have been drinking soy milk for the last 10 years.

I eat cheese, so perhaps I am one of the hypocrites then.

Although, like TarynW says, I also don't see myself as an animal libber. I don't generally agree with animal libbers.

Yabby
The Answer To Your Question is on the main stream forum where I belong.

I dont wish people to mix me up with libbers.

However i will leave you with this thought for the day.

I would much rather have a animal libber to dinner than a cruel live Animal Exporter or Intensive Farmer.

When You Look at it like that they certainly are on a higher moral ground.
There is nothing wrong with eating meat or drinking milk providing its done properly . Most ordinary folk do.

Ban Intensive Farming of Dairy Cattle and Feed Lots.

Insist on Free Range and enjoy your milk and meat eggs pork.

Oh and enjoy your trip but it doesnt look like being too Halal with your travelling partner.

Yes, as a free range farmer I know only too well that all that talk does not translate into action.

I am a farmer that cares deeply for animal welfare and I am also a realist. People donate to all sorts of 'causes' to appease their consciences then go out and buy the cheapest food they can. Probably don’t even look at the labels, just the price tag.

Lets take the example of milk. Yes yabby is right about the calves being taken at 1- 2 days. The law says they must have colostrums first! What a joke.

Anyway, go in and buy the cheap Woolworths or Coles brand. That act supports these controlling giants that beat down the price farmers get for their milk, the follow on effect? Less money for the care of their animals and you are a contributing factor. But you save money that you can donate to an animal welfare cause!

Yes, hypocrites.