"The Public Say Ban Live Exports."

The public say no such thing. The public know little or nothing
about live exports and really don't seem to care. What they care
about is their pocket, thats why they still mostly buy battery eggs
etc. Meantime WA farmers, in deep trouble as it is, would lose well
over 100 million$ a year, money used to feed their families right now.

"So use some of our tax funds to build more abattoirs in Australia John Howard."

Umm we have a market economy here in Aus, last I noticed. Govts don't
build abattoirs, we are not is Russia or China. I doubt it you are
about to overthrow Australia's economic system Taryn. The few thousand $ that goes to animal welfare in the Middle East is well
spent. Farmers do more for animal welfare in the Middle East, then
so called animal welfare groups, who seem to spend their time
fooling around on the internet.

"If I have to walk around Australia and door knock and invite the media and others to join."

You do that Taryn and don't forget the kid :)

"You have the Leaders of The Australian Federational Of Islamic Council Supporting slaughtering here in Australia"

AFAIK the AFIC get paid a levy for each halal slauthtered animal,
which adds up to big bucks to fund their activities. That would
mean huge extra income if live exports were banned. No wonder they
would be keen!

I thought that was rather rude of you TarynW. A fair question given the actions of PALE. Sorry if I dont have the time or inclination to go through the hundreds of posts on these threads. Iam sure someone will be happy to tell me.

You are saying the pope is involved with banning live exports but you dont know quite how? I would be very interested to see that link.

You didnt mention what the project is that you are working on, the one that so many are interested in. Maybe people here would be if you elaborated.

"The Pope has spoken before about these matters"

The pope would not have the foggiest about live exports.
Even if he did, if you thought he was so important that
people should take notice, then clearly they should take
notice of all of what the pope says.

As the pope is deeply against abortion, perhaps you'd
better tell Wendy that you think that its fine for Catholics
to tell women what to do with their uterus. Careful she
doesent bite you lol

Butcherbob - its way back in one of the threads. Antje (CEO of PALE mentioned in Tamyns earlier post) says she did it and has already admitted she had no conscience about it.

Tamyn - I will tell you something the pope said "turning vegetarian can also help you to win salvation" www.vege4lent.org
Is that what this is all about? Are PALE closet vegetarians? Just a question. Are you going try and stear us all down the path of salvation?

"So you want to start on trying to disceit me now as well do you ?"

Did you mean discredit dear? I am sure you dont need any more help in that department.

Anyway, this is all getting to be about PALE again, can we talk about something interesting.

Pigkiddy..still hiding on Yabbys thread?
Still youve been mucking out pigcrap for so long its not only gone to your head but also your mouth..'redneck'?..Still I think its very sad when you have to hang out amongst a bunch of pple who detest you..Yabby excluded but then of course he may be under the illusion you two are having a 'relationship'..
Picture it ...Yabby in his lil overalls, backpack and hanky..and pigkiddy in her lil pigskin overalls ,the remains of pig poo on her snout..together they sail off into the sunset on the 'SS loveboat' headed for the middle East..Yabby has his supply of viagra and Pigkiddy her HRT....oh and dont forget your feminine hygeine products...

Poor umcomplicated lil manchild Yabs...so innocent and yet so thick.

Oh and Pigkiddy get running for tha delete button again...I mean you thought you already got rid of me...what happened ? HHHmmmm.

Viagra? HRT? My I ask if whatever you are on is by prescription?

I am sure in your mind that was a wonderful contribution to the discussion.