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How many animal libbers are hypocrites?

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Hi everyone..was very interested to see a post from a foxshooter on here..as was I .Going back a few years go I shot foxes and did it for quite a while.You may have even heard of me Yabby..you being a WA man.
I shot properties in regional NSW, up around Albury, the Nullabor, Anna Creek station and the Simpson desert..round Meekatharra West Australia etc.Dick Nunn ran Anna Creek station in sa then.

The large sheep populations were in NSW around the Hay plains thru the Ivanhoe region up to Wilcannia and Broken Hill area..
We not only shot foxes but Kangaroos , then though mainly for pet food.

Cockies had a problem with foxes at lambing time, and we were rang by the cocky to come in and shoot their property , some of them after we left took to shooting them themselves..they were worth far more than their sheep.
I shot kangaroos and foxes simultaneously..shot roos into a chiller that was emptied once a week and skun, pegged and prepared fox skins for market in Melbourne and Adelaide..it was common for skin buyers to come to outback towns to specifically purchase skins from shooters ..we were possibly the first professional shooters then until word of the money to be made spread and then all changed.

It was hard work and the hours were much like those of truckies and we bought 'uppers' from them to stay awake.
Days consisted of reloading more bullets,mending staked tyres, doing books,tring to 'come down' to get a bit of sleep and leaving late afternoon to get to a property then put in all night till sunrise .

On the Nullabor we slept in swags and that was much the same thing.I was young, was tough work, but well paid..we bought our own home paid for in cash 6 months after we got into good market prices.

Since the demise of fox shooting it is a legitimate query to wonder how, now these cockies control theyre fox populations..since there is now foxes everywhere..i dont see the problem with this question quite frankly..
Posted by yareckon?, Thursday, 5 October 2006 10:30:22 AM
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Yareckon, foxes are still shot on a regular basis, not for skins,
never have been around here, but just to keep the numbers down
and stop them eating lambs. Usually its a group of farmers sons
who go out with a spotlight every couple of months or so.

Alpacas are also used as guardians, they do a pretty good job
actually.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 5 October 2006 11:28:40 AM
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Pigfarmer,

Probably not the right place to be discussing people without theyre knowledge nor naming properties..
Its been a few yrs anyway so probably a lot of them sold up and moved on by now..been a pretty bad drought out that way for quite awhile now.

It would seem judging by the post above you are preoccupied with much more important matters:)
Posted by yareckon?, Thursday, 5 October 2006 8:35:03 PM
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Yareckon - why not? you have mention one property in SA? Come on, this is my old stomping ground! Been a few years for me too so we were probably there around the same time. If I havent heard of you one of the family would have. We have a long history all out that way.

"It would seem judging by the post above you are preoccupied with much more important matters:) "

Hardly! lol Drivel from the 'office' is just monotonous. We need a change of subject. If fox shooting is no longer viable for you, what know? Kangaroos, or pigs maybe?
Posted by pigfarmer, Thursday, 5 October 2006 9:24:13 PM
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Dickie

Thank You for your reply. You have possibly seen some of these which links Global warming to Animal Health.
http://www.fasts.org/site/policy/occasionalpapers/parasite_paper.pdf#search=%22global%20warming%20effects%20animal%20care%20health%20%22

http://www.csiro.au/files/mediaRelease/mr2004/prbluetongue.htm
http://www.publish.csiro.au/paper/RJ03011.htm

There are many posts on the connection which I am sure you know about already.

Our main job is The Barbaric Live Animal Export Trade. Anybody who supports that would be lower than a snakes belly as they say in the bush.

Did anybody see the Doc on TV last night about the abattoir at Cowra Closing down

The Mayor went on telling the public how it has devasted his town and the clear wide range effects that carry through to each person business.

Well thats what happend to the little Country towns clear throughout Australia.

Yareckon I agree with you about the number of fox now than years ago.

Do you think however a lot of it is also dogs running wild?

What do you think about these people with their use of Saffron?

Either way I think shooting would have to be kinder than this 1080.

PF Look I really do not care what you post. From what I can see you are looking after you animals a lot better than some.
As for the other issue you just keep going on and on about For pity Sake.
You wrote complaining about a reply you received from Animal Australia.

A letter was sent out to them supporting you. Now you are complaining. For heavens! sake woman. You asked for support and received it.

I agree with you.

You should have! been supported and its good that you wrote to them.

How on earth can you improve animal welfare unless the public are fully informed.

Why should the public keep donating millions of dollars for nothing.

Funds should be spent promoting Free Range Farmers Like Yourself and others.

Or a Good Court Case To Make This Government enforce some proper laws.
The Animal Welfare act is the only act of Parliment that is not enforced.
Its not policed and people walk off Scott Free Even when they are! charged which isnt often.
Posted by AntjeStruthmann, Thursday, 5 October 2006 11:01:29 PM
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You don’t quite get it Antje. I can stand up for my self. I don’t need, or want PALE writing to people on my behalf. I don’t want to be seen to have any connection whatsoever with PALE. That’s the part I don’t like. I don’t appreciate the attempt to hitch a ride on the name of a reputable business.

You are always accusing others of avoiding issues. I would like to hear what you / PALE have done to help free range farmers. Actions antje, not links to what others have done, not more talk, actions. We have been asking this question for a long time without ever getting an answer.

I’d love to hear all about the saffron thing too. What plant are you actually referring to? Saffron the spice, saffron thistle, saffron bush?
Posted by pigfarmer, Friday, 6 October 2006 7:44:31 AM
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