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Obama's passing act of treachery

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Dear Yuyutsu,

You wrote: "Look at the tragedy of the Scots: had Scotland been independent from England, then they wouldn't be forced to leave the EU where they feel good, whatever be their reason."

You have previously written that smaller groups are better than larger groups. Here you call it a tragedy for the Scots to leave a larger unit to belong to a smaller one. It really seems that you just want to argue with a procrustean quality to your arguments. You change your arguments to maintain disagreement.

I really guess that there isn't much point in dialogue with you if you see 1984 as a bildungsroman. I will try to avoid any interaction with you in future. I have made such a resolve before, but this time I may keep it.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 6:48:48 PM
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All the discussion on here regarding the settlements is redundant.
The differences between the PLA led by Abbas and Hamas are coming to a conclusion.
Abbas, it seems is likely to be displaced in the near future and the
other factions have close connections with Hamas.
Hamas has just one policy on Palestine; Kill the Jews.
Maybe they will relent and let them leave on foot.

http://tinyurl.com/zfm647v

Discussions on this border, that border etc etc is pointless.
I guess Israel knows this better then we do.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 9:23:55 PM
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Re Shadow Minister:

Palestine was invaded by foreign terrorists in 1948. Every other engagement with the terrorists' "state" was an act of Resistance like that of the Poles and other Europeans on their own territory against the occupying Hun invaders.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 3:19:58 AM
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The 5 Permanent UN Security Council are terrorists. They invited terrorists to join up. Free Antarctica!
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 6:17:27 AM
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EJ,

I agree that the Jordanian, Egyptian and Syrian terrorists invaded Israel in 1948, and that Israel has been successfully resisting their attempts at genocide since.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 6:44:50 AM
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Dear David,

Regarding Scotland, I promote freedom - not isolation. While groups of people should be free to determine their life-style, they should not be denied the option of relating with other groups of their choosing. A Jewish enclave for example should not be prevented from asking the advice of Rabbis in other Jewish enclaves.

Regarding "bildungsroman", you wrote: «Usually, the plot depicts a conflict between the protagonist and the values of society. Finally, he or she accepts those values and they are accepted by the society, ending the dissatisfaction.»

Doesn't "1984" fit this description?

Smaller groups and smaller nations are just the means, not the end: The goal is to prevent coercion and while coercion is wrong in any-sized group, I think that it is more likely to occur in larger groups.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 12:13:25 PM
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