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Obama's passing act of treachery

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Yuyutsu's nostrum of leaving a major injustice for the fullness of time is not unlike the calls to protect the major injustice of domestic violence by leaving those who commit it free to terrorise their victims while social engineers fiddle around restructuring society.

Palestinians have been suffering a major injustice for much longer than Poland did and we in the American sphere are part of it. First cab off the rank is to turn demonstrably away from it strategically and diplomatically and second is to be seen to assist the Palestinians in restoring control of their own homeland. In our time, not cosmic time.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 9 January 2017 10:56:20 PM
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Dear Julian,

While I never condone domestic violence, comparably, social engineers generate even more pain then domestic perpetrators. The least you can say in mitigation for domestic perpetrators, is that their abused partner has agreed at some point in time to reside with them.

So-called "Palestinians" have not suffered at all under Israeli rule from 1967 until about 1975-1976, nor have they thought of themselves as "Palestinians" until that time. On the contrary, they were happy, they were free to enter and work in Israel and swim in its beaches as they pleased without any barriers, they invited Israelis to their homes and enjoyed unprecedented prosperity.

Two things happened since and gradually:
1) The Jewish settlers came.
2) The PLO, a Tunisian-based terrorist group, incited the local Arabs to rebel and terrorise.

Sure they also suffered in 1948, but that great injustice was at the hands of their Arab brothers, who forced them to leave their homes and become refugees. Had they not attacked Israel at the time, they would retain their control over most of what's Israel today, including an international enclave in Jerusalem.

Anyway, what matters is that they suffer now. This needs to stop, but it can only stop once they stop their terrorism. It is only by their own most-stupid actions that the internal balance within Israel changed, that the moderate Israelis who supported them are desperately leaving the country while extremist settlers, especially Americans, are arriving and settling in their midst. The situation has deteriorated so badly that now even Israel bows down and is unable to control the Jewish settlers, not any more, the Jeannie is out of the bottle.

Sadly, placing the "Palestinians" behind the wheel would not reduce their suffering - more likely, as their factions fight among themselves, they would throw each other from rooftops and shoot at each others' knees, just as we saw in Gaza.

Indeed they are in deep muck, but I know not how to help them. National sovereignty may satisfy the aspirations of some Western social engineers, but would only increase the suffering of ordinary "Palestinians".
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 12:05:10 AM
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EJ,

Not all Arabs are the same, but most agree with genocide, public hangings subjugation of women etc.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 4:43:16 AM
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Dear SM,

«Not all Arabs are the same, but most agree with genocide, public hangings subjugation of women etc.»

I disagree that it's "most". The tragedy, however, is that most Arabs keep their disagreement with the above practices private and hidden in fear for their life.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 7:14:46 AM
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It has been written a very long time ago. and it is fulfilling.
Posted by TheDogLine, Thursday, 12 January 2017 11:44:59 PM
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