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Obama's passing act of treachery

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I was at http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mapstellstory.html a couple of minutes ago, tried to return to it and it seems to have been blocked. Maybe the Russians aren't the only ones who can hack.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Sunday, 8 January 2017 2:41:01 PM
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Dear Julian,

Let me understand you correctly:

Suppose for a moment that everything happened as your website describes - are you asking for people to pack up, leave their thriving homes and go as refugees to foreign lands where they've never been before, only because of events that happened before they were born?

Or perhaps all you ask and would receive satisfaction from, is for families to remove their grandmother from her nursing home, throw her on a plane or on a ship to send her overseas to where she happened to be born before she was brought by her parents to Israel as a toddler?

And otherwise, do you expect those who WERE born in Israel to willingly subject themselves to a militant Islamic regime where even in the unlikely event that it allows them to live, they would be treated as third-class dhimmis?

Now who is treating people like cockroaches?

Not just Jews - also Muslim Arabs who live happily as Israelis: while you make your outrageous demands, an increasing number of them volunteer to serve in the Israeli army, in order to become first-class Israeli citizens and protect their families and villages from ever falling under callous "Palestinian" rule.

And of whom are you expecting to make those insane voluntary sacrifices? Of healthy and functional people who have one of the strongest armies on earth, including vast nuclear capabilities!

All so that Mr. Julian, the emperor, can satisfactorily tick his "Middle East" box.

Are you dreaming, or do you need medical help?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 8 January 2017 7:11:21 PM
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EJ,

The map shows the Jewish territory as proposed in 1947 which the Jews accepted and the Arabs did not. The Arabs tried to wipe out Israel in an unprovoked attack and lost badly. They attacked again unprovoked in 1967, and lost badly again. The same again in 1973.

Each time Germany attacked Russia unprovoked, it lost land. Do you suggest that Poland and Russia cede the land they won in WW1 and WW2?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 8 January 2017 7:22:41 PM
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SM, the leap from 1946 to 1947 was imposed not only without the agreement of the inhabitants but without their input at all. The expansions thereafter were not determined with Palestinian permission but at first (1967) by an army lavishly funded by the USA prevailing over a peasant Resistance movement seeking to recover stolen territory. Continued thereafter by the invaders holding the local community at gunpoint while more intruders entered the land and built illegal settlements on it.

The ejection of the Huns from occupied territory was quite the other way round. They had seized it by invasion and were eventually thrown back to their own homeland and a bit further for richly earned good measure. They whined about the extra for a while but nobody listened nor should have.

To Yuyutsu I suppose I have to repeat (yet again) that anyone born in Palestine has a birthright to remain there, and add that so does anyone brought as a child. Adult settlers out out out back to their homelands and normally they'd take their families with them. A dear old grandmother not born in Palestine is probably a rarity and would normally be able to remain with her family who WERE born there.

British people living in the colonies would have had the same problems when the colonies gained independence, and they seem to have got by.

A Jewish minority left behind by Palestinian independence would have the same problem but those with a homeland to return to could and in most cases should return to it.

Imposition of Sharia "law" on a minority remains part of a global problem with the march of Islam which is something we all need to confront, first totally rejecting the PC voices of appeasers. In Palestine it might lead to refugees with a case for resettlement elsewhere. They might have to start in the camps built for Palestinian exiles.

But in no way should the preservation of racist Israel be allowed to call on the sacrifice of blood or treasure to keep it going.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Sunday, 8 January 2017 9:33:12 PM
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EJ,

The Jewish and Arab inhabitants were both comprehensively consulted, and the Jewish inhabitants agreed to the partition plan in 1947. The Arab inhabitants, however, were not prepared to cede the Jewish inhabitants one inch of ground, and as soon as the British left launched a racist and genocidal pogrom to massacre the Jews outnumbering the Jews >4:1, but being such a mentally enfeebled group got their arses whipped, and established an Israel bigger than the 1947 proposed partition.

The planned 1967 and 1973 pogroms again failed with tens of 1000s of dead Arabs, and Israel not only keeping their land, but gaining a buffer against Arab aggression.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 9 January 2017 1:32:08 PM
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SM It's blindingly obvious to anyone who knows any Palestinian Jews that Jews were not excluded from living in Palestine, just as Germans were not excluded from living in Poland up to 1939. After 1939 the game changed when the lavishly armed Huns stormed in by state terrorist violence (Blitzkrieg they called it) and called Polish territory their own and the Poles Untermenschen. Polish and other free world Partisans were treated as aggressors against the Hun Vaterland just as the Zionist occupiers and their mouthpieces label the Resistance in Palestine as "terrorists" and aggressors against the ever-expanding implanted state of Israel.

Some slimebags in the free world accepted and peddled the Hun narrative and a lot of these slimebags had bought their way into high office. We see the same thing in America especially today including demonstrably racist Donald Trump pledging undying support to racist Israel and like the launcher of this thread accusing Obama of treachery for not opposing Polish - sorry, Palestinian - statehood.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 9 January 2017 2:49:01 PM
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