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Obama's passing act of treachery

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yep the exit from the UN would be another nail in the coffin for the unelected marxist who have tried to brainwash, manipulate and intimidate people into their crude ideologies and dogmas. The sooner Trump exits this demonic institution the better. The gw scam will also unfold and thinking people will rejoice.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 10:32:55 AM
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Israel will not take any notice of Obama or the U. N.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 10:47:57 AM
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Obama's twin slaps in the face of racist Israel are a rare positive gesture after eight years of administering America for the Wall Street banksters. The UN resolution, freed from the US veto, gives a glimpse of what the world thinks of racism and the illegitimate enclave state of Israel based on it.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 11:17:55 AM
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Foxy,

If you don't dislike Trump or Israel, why are all your posts on Trump and Israel so negative? Actions speak louder than words.

Secondly, your version of events is seriously flawed. Israel has always been prepared to trade land for peace, it is the Arabs that have always instigated the wars.

Prior to 1947, there was a solution that the international community wanted to implement which included Jerusalem as an internationally monitored enclave with access to both Jews and Arabs, and the Jews accepted. However, the Arabs refused and launched an all out offensive. After nearly a year of fighting, a ceasefire was established (never a peace treaty) and this was recognised as the state of Israel. Even though none of the Arab states recognised Israel or its boundaries.

In 1967 Egyptian President Nasser organised a rearmament of the Arab states for a massive offensive against Israel preceded by cross border guerrilla attacks, Shelling from the Golan heights, massing of troops and armour on Israel's border and the blockade of Haifa (an act of war). In 6 days the vastly outnumbered Israelis thrashed the combined Arab forces and captured buffer zones from Syria, Jordan and Egypt in the Golan Heights, the West Bank and the Sinai.

In 1973 Egypt and Syria tried again with an initially successful surprise attack, but after initial advances, the overwhelming Syrian tank force was wiped out, and so too the massive Egyptian invasion force, and Israel occupied both sides of the Suez and territory deep within Syria.

Egypt finally made a peace treaty and recognised the right of Israel to exist, and in turn Israel gave back not only the most recently captured territory, but the entire Sinai peninsula won in 1967. However, Syria still refused a peace treaty, and forever lost the Golan heights.

In 1993 The Oslo Accords were signed, and Israel pulled the military and settlers out of Gaza, and some West bank areas and helped establish an independent Palestinian Authority.

Claims that Israel is not prepared to negotiate land for peace are a lie.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 2:26:17 PM
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Dear SM,

ĢIsrael has always been prepared to trade land for peaceģ

Very true and so are your examples, but the size of the land that Israel is prepared to trade has shrunk significantly in recent years as its demography changed.

The Arabs may well be idiots who are unable to take an excellent offer when they receive it, but this does not help Israel to save itself from itself.

Or perhaps, after all, the Arabs are not such idiots as they seem, but rather apply a clever long-term strategy that will cause Israel to implode by itself once its merits are exhausted and it no longer retains a moral justification to exist.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 4:13:48 PM
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All proposed solutions leaving any of Palestine occupied by foreign invaders are manifestly unjust.

Poland provides a just historical model. One Poland, all Polish territory restored to Poland, all foreign invader-occupiers bundled out.

There were a couple of decades of German whining over it and especially the Oder-Niesse line, but a world fed up with German aggression for Lebensraum-for-Germans sensibly didn't listen and the occupiers had to settle in their own homeland.

The German occupation and sense of ownership of Poland was driven by the same race supremacism as the foreign racist occupation of Palestine and maintained as in Palestine, by tanks, guns, warships and warplanes and not by right.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 5:01:43 PM
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