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Islamic terror in Orlando, a boost to Trump?

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Here you go, SM...same story with more detail...

"A man claiming to be the Orlando shooter's lover says Omar Mateen was livid after discovering he'd had sex with an HIV-positive man.
The Hispanic gay man, identified only as Miguel, told Univision he met Omar Mateen on Grindr before they became 'friends with benefits', meeting up 20 times at a hotel in Orlando, Florida.

Miguel described Mateen as a confused gay man and a heavy drinker who was attracted to - but felt rejected by - Latinos.

He believes Mateen's massacre on Pulse nightclub's Latin Night was an attempt at 'revenge' after discovering that one of the two Puerto Rican gay men he'd had a threesome with was HIV-positive.

Speaking in fluent Spanish and broken English, Miguel said that despite tests coming up negative, Mateen feared not enough time had passed for an accurate result, and he wanted to 'make them pay'."

"Before the massacre, Miguel insists, Mateen seemed 'adorable' and 'sweet', adding that they often had oral sex and that Mateen 'loved to be cuddled... he loved to be embraced'.

Their first date, he said, was at a bar in Orlando called Parliament. 'It was like any other date,' he recounts."

"Every other meeting was at the city's Ambassador hotel, where they met 15 to 20 times between October and December 2015.

Univision said a representative for the hotel confirmed that Omar Mateen was a familiar face, and that he stayed at the hotel at least 63 times last year.

The FBI has obtained CCTV footage from the hotel, Univision reports."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3653734/Puerto-Rican-man-claiming-Orlando-shooter-s-gay-lover-describes-friends-benefits-relationship-says-attack-revenge-Omar-Mateen-discovered-one-men-d-threesome-HIV-positive.html#ixzz4CM65UugD

Mateen's actions had all the hallmarks of a guy who'd lost the plot - like many other instances in the US of mass shootings - and few of an organised attack inspired by Islam.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 23 June 2016 9:55:12 AM
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Paul,

Have the Australian Greens sent an apology along with their condolences to the family of Glen Turner who was brutality murdered by one of those that they approve of having firearms, Ian Turnbull. After all the Greens were okay with Turnbull having a gun licence, they never raised any objection; now did they?

Stop ambulance chasing, Paul.

The point, Paul, about the double barrel shotgun is that such a weapon would have been just as effective, something that those who have plenty of opinions on guns would know were it not for their abysmal lack of knowledge on firearms.

Poirot

The time to change magazines/reload a lesser weapon need not be any different to an AR15.
Did you know that such units as Quantrell's Raiders in the Civil War (1861-65) went into battle with a capacity of between 36 and 48 shots without needing to reload and that they could deliver these shots without pause?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 23 June 2016 11:57:59 AM
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Interesting enough we now have a 'gay lover'claiming that the massacre was revenge. DV among the homosexual level is far higher than the average population. NO doubt you are not allowed to go their without copping abuse and labelling. Again we see why issues that doesn't support the regressive dogmas will never be addressed.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 23 June 2016 12:34:35 PM
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Is Mise,

If semi-automatic weapons were not so readily available in the US - even to those on a terrorism watch list - then the scale of this tragedy could have been averted...that's all I'm saying.

I suppose if a person was keen enough, he could get hold of the sort of weaponry that wouldn't require reloading in the circumstances of more rigid gun control, however, in an ordinary circumstance, this wouldn't be the case - and others could physically intervene before mass casualties take place.

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runner,

You're having a good time,eh?

No matter which way it goes, you get to slam Islam, gays or "regressives".

I know how much you enjoy such reverie!

I think you'll find that in the case mass shootings in the US, that gay one's are far fewer in number than your ordinary heterosexual going troppo.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 23 June 2016 3:03:49 PM
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P,

I know that you are desperately trying to find a reason other than Islamic extremism for the Orlando shooting, but as pointed out earlier, there is never one sole reason why someone goes nuts on a murder spree, and to say he did it because of x, y or z is only ever a half truth.

There is no denying that Mateen was a devout Muslim and a follower of the more radical ISIS. His homosexuality and the resultant conflict with his radical faith, anger at betrayal, and the availability of guns all played a part, and most probably if any one of those factors had been removed, 49 people would still be alive.

To try and whitewash out the Islamic radicalisation is as absurd as trying to pretend that the availability of guns played no part.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 23 June 2016 3:41:35 PM
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You're having a good time,eh?

NOt really Poirot just amazed that the likes of you have certainly no clue as you are so bound by your narrative. Not surprising that you remain so ignorantly blind.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 23 June 2016 3:43:05 PM
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