Is Mise, what is your point, tell the families of the 49 dead, "well folks he could have done the same thing with a 1900 era double barrel shotgun, tough luck, get over it." Has the Australian gun lobby sent an apology along with their condolences to the family of Glen Turner who was brutality murdered by one of their own licensed shooters Ian Turnbull. After all the gun lobby were okay with Turnbull having a gun licence, they never raised any objection, now did they. Just as the American gun lobby seem happy with the way Mateen was able to obtain guns to commit mass murder.

Make fun of me if you like, I haven't even watched any television coverage of this event.
I'll tell you why I thought this event was suss from the word go.
Mention of G4S and that the FBI was running some sort of operation.
- That's all I had to hear.

What I know, (and obviously many of you don't) is that the FBI doesn't foil these events, IT CO-OPS THEM, and G4S is often mentioned in these kinds of events as well.

I can't provide links as my internet is terrible today but you guys can look it up and I'll add links when I can.
Look up that Hillary Clinton stopped investigations into Omar Mateen's Mosque prior to the event occurring. Look it up.
Interesting the Clinton Foundation received so much money from Saudi Arabia isn't it?

And stop whinging about the guns, it's like your all trapped in some endless loop.
Anyone can go buy an M60 off the shelf at WalMart.
Omar passed all the gun checks he even worked issuing bail bonds at some point.
Look it up.

The fact the place was a gun-free zone and nobody else was armed either by conceal carry or constitutional carry meant that there was no way anyone could of defended themselves.
And of course the police aren't there to help.
Just as in the Lindt event the cops killed civilians, in this case I think they killed plenty.

So the important thing to note is that EVERYWHERE in Australia is a gun-free zone.
If some nut-jub does this ANYWHERE we're fish in a barrel and the cops are just as likely to shoot us than save us.
- Which is why Americans want guns to defend themselves.
There's an argument for having the right to a gun to defend yourself.

In Australia criminals can get guns, which means Islamist's can get guns, and we're all disarmed.
(I'm the first to correct people to say Islamic Extremism)

These events in America are at the very least co-opted and meant to take the guns of Americans.
Look it up.

Armchair Critic,

"And stop whinging about the guns, it's like your all trapped in some endless loop.
Anyone can go buy an M60 off the shelf at WalMart.
Omar passed all the gun checks..."

"The fact the place was a gun-free zone and nobody else was armed either by conceal carry or constitutional carry meant that there was no way anyone could of defended themselves."

My point exactly.

(Although if he'd been in possession of a lesser weapon, other patrons could have physically intervened to stop him reloading)

Another angle....

"The alleged gay lover of the man responsible for the Pulse gay nightclub shooting in Orlando claims the attack was "revenge" after discovering he had unknowingly had sex with an HIV-positive man.

Omar Mateen, 29, killed 49 people and wounded 53 others in the mass shooting on June 12.

Mateen's alleged lover - identified only as Miguel by US Spanish-language television broadcaster Univision and disguised with a prosthetic mask - said the pair became "friends with benefits" after meeting on gay geosocial network Grindr.

He claims that during their two-month sexual relationship, they had met at an Orlando hotel between 15 and 20 times.

Despite Mateen's 911 call and Facebook post pledging allegiance to ISIL during the rampage, Miguel believed the attack "is not terrorism"

Instead, he claimed the attack was Mateen's revenge after learning one of two Puerto Rican men he had engaged in a threesome with was HIV-positive.

"The thing that makes me want to tell the truth is that he didn’t do it for terrorism," Miguel told Univision.

"In my opinion he did it for revenge.

"He hated Puerto Rican gays for all the bad stuff they did."

"Pulse is where he felt used, rejected," Miguel said.

"He was always there and he was there because he liked Latinos and he was attracted to dark skin. But sadly, from what he told me, he felt used."

Miguel claimed that Mateen told him his wife was aware of his gay adulterous indiscretions and he thought his father might also be aware."

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2016/06/22/17/31/alleged-lover-of-orlando-shooter-claims-massacre-was-revenge-attack#2u8IBWpTM0aqDS2E.99

//I'll tell you why I thought this event was suss from the word go.
Mention of G4S and that the FBI was running some sort of operation.
- That's all I had to hear.//

Don't be ridiculous. This was a WCTU operation.

The WCTU are the Women's Christian Temperance Union, a group radically opposed to the consumption of alcohol. The event was orchestrated to make Americans more fearful of going to nightclubs, bars and other dens of inebriation so that they drink less.

Since drinking is forbidden in Islam, it is a fairly easy matter for the ATS to radicalise marginalised Muslim youths into committing these sorts of terror attacks. To avoid drawing attention to themselves so they can continue to strike from the shadows at America's liqour industry, they train their terrorist footsoldiers to claim allegiance to radical Islamic groups.

This event was designed to take the drinks out of the hands of decent, god-fearing American citizens. Look it up.

And don't think that this is just an American problem. We have our own branch of the WCTU in Australia. Who did you think was responsible for light beer? Nobody would have ever dreamed of brewing or drinking that watery shite if it weren't for the nefarious machinations of the WCTU.

Sorry, this sentence had an error:

Since drinking is forbidden in Islam, it is a fairly easy matter for the ATS to radicalise marginalised Muslim youths into committing these sorts of terror attacks.

It should have read:

Since drinking is forbidden in Islam, it is a fairly easy matter for the WCTU to radicalise marginalised Muslim youths into committing these sorts of terror attacks.