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Islamic terror in Orlando, a boost to Trump?

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I usually stay away from making hasty discussions about terror events because of the many red flags and questionable events surrounding them.
The Orlando shooting is no different, there's red flags everywhere.

Here's just some of them I've heard.

1 The event was staged. (false flag)
2 The FBI allowed the event to occur. (false flag)
3 Many of the victims were shot by police.
4 No images of the victims being taken away from the scene.
5 Omar Mateen was gay and frequented the Pulse nightclub
6 Omar Mateen was working with FBI
7 Omar changed his name.
8 Omar passed all registered gun checks, he even worked within government.
9 Omar's father was in the Mujahadeen.
10 The event was staged to draw attention away from DT's speech on the Clintons.
11 Hillary Clinton stopped an investigation into Omar's Mosque
12 Supposed victims stopped 'acting' like they were injured and started laughing when they thought camera was not filming.

These are just a few of the many points I've heard in the last 2 days.
The ones I can remember.

I hate to see you guys go around in circles and not even get close to the many issues being discussed elsewhere.

Try these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLZncTbFLJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEd492oBuzQ
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 16 June 2016 9:20:11 AM
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Paul, Poirot, Suz,

That you can find a couple of virulently anti gay pastors (both from minorities) in the US out of 300 000 odd active congregations shows how extremely rare it is. Perhaps could search for a couple of Imams that think that homosexuality should be legal, given that in the UK muslim congregations only 18% think that homosexuality should be legal?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 16 June 2016 9:27:56 AM
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SM,

"That you can find a couple of virulently anti gay pastors (both from minorities) in the US out of 300 000 odd active congregations shows how extremely rare it is..."

Oh really.

Here is the Republicans one time alternative presidential candidate and his "friends"

"On Friday, three Republican presidential candidates — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee — attended an event in Des Moines, Iowa, hosted by a controversial Colorado pastor who has frequently advocated against gay people, including that the government should put them to death.

The event, dubbed the National Religious Liberties Conference, was hosted by pastor Kevin Swanson, who delivered a fiery speech in which he said Biblical law calls for "homosexuals" to be executed.

"Yes, Leviticus 20:13 calls for the death penalty for homosexuals," he said. Swanson said he was "willing to go to jail for standing on the truth of the word of God."

"Swanson then invited Jindal, Cruz and Huckabee on stage for a Q&A session with the 2016 presidential candidates."

http://www.yahoo.com/news/republican-candidates-attend-rally-where-014821801.html?ref=gs

When you've got people in such an influential position chumming up with religious freaks from the dominant religion who advocate death for gays - I think you're in a country with a problem.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 16 June 2016 10:06:16 AM
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SM, you must surely be joking if you think the US is not an anti-gay country as a whole.
With such a dominant Christian majority in their population, it is surely almost mandatory to hold anti-gay views?
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 16 June 2016 10:26:38 AM
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Paulines right of course.

Islam is a danger to our society and not compatible in any way, so let us stop importing muslims. We stop importation of dangerous dogs and other animals, we stop importation of other dangerous items such as toys that could harm.

Its about time we stopped pussy footing around and got to the heart of the issue. Less muslims here the less danger of terrorist attacks. Has any one heard of a muslim terrorist attack in Japan. They have very tight immigration laws. No one hates them for that.

If muslims want to kill homosexuals, infidels and apostates, they should not get sanctuary here.
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 16 June 2016 10:29:14 AM
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Banjo,

Pauline Hanson is a bigot who will chop and change her targets for demonisation to whichever is more helpful for electoral advantage.

Let's have a look at her targets when she first appeared in 1996, shall we...

"Yet in Hanson’s 1996 maiden speech – the presentation that propelled her to fame – she never once mentioned Sharia. She said nothing about Muslims; Islam wasn’t on her radar at all.

Back in those days, Hanson had other fish to fry. “I believe we are in danger of being swamped by Asians,” she told the parliament.

In that speech, she called for a review of immigration policies – but not to keep Muslims out. She wanted a quite different group to “go back where they came from”.

“Between 1985 and 1995, 40% of all migrants coming into this country were of Asian origin,” she said. “They have their own culture and religion, form ghettos and do not assimilate.”

In those days, One Nation’s official policy on immigration decried “the Asianisation of Australia”, rhetoric that in 2014 has almost entirely vanished, even from the far rightwing of politics."

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/23/jacqui-lambies-islam-slur-the-rhetoric-changes-but-the-bigots-stay-the-same?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

She's nothing but an air-headed opportunist who descends upon the airwaves every election in order to get enough votes to be paid a certain amount by the electoral commission.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 16 June 2016 10:41:28 AM
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