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Manus Island, Illegal.

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Paul1405,
Do you know what the 'Cloward and Piven Strategy' is?
(To anyone else who doesn't know know what it is, please take a quick look, it could be the most interesting thing you learn today.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy

Let it be said, that it's my opinion that this is your general policy for our country.
You can refute me and claim otherwise to which I may or may not apologise depending on whether or not I believe you truly have our nations interests at heart.

Another point I want to make, is that freedom most certainly isnt free.
People including many of my ancestors fought for and built this country with blood sweat and tears.
You may have got free entry into our country and an opportunity for a better life and I don't begrudge that, I'd like to think you contributed to making the country better (whether thats true is in doubt).
But we don't have the jobs or opportunities here that we once had.

So ultimately you take a position of morality and fairness, (as you too were a boat person)
And you push for these changes, and treat freedom here as being free, while not respecting that we left our nation unguarded and went to fight in those wars too.
Freedom isn't free, if it was you wouldn't have had to leave wherever you came from, and;
We wouldn't have had to put our own lives on the line in order to defend it.

You treating freedom like its free, at the expense of our nation is the same as dropping your daks and dropping a big number 2 on my ancentors ANZACS and WWII graves that fought for it, and then wiping your butt on our flag afterwards.

I know that 28% of Australians weren't born here, but you've enjoyed plenty of paid days off in the 'ANZAC' name, have you not?
Did your own ancestors never fight for their nations?
Show some respect.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 8:37:41 AM
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Paul,
No, I'm not constructing Aushwitz. (In case your wondering)
Plenty of people work and live in remote settlements in Australia.
FYI, They're actually the people who've kept this country afloat in recent times.
(The people who made the money so that you can throw it away, if you're following me.)
So, I'm not asking them to do anything that Australians don't already do, or that I won't be asking our own welfare class to do.

And yes a national straight line highway from Darwin to Perth the long way going (via Townsville)through every capital city with HSR, freight, water, power internet, oil and gas.
A super port in Darwin, desalination plants connected into the grid, an Eastern Australian inland route veering off at Carpentaria meeting at Port Pirie and another from Darwin due south to SA giving southern mining (Kalgoorlie) better access to the Northern Port. I want a move to alternative energy, but I'm prepared to conside nuclear power plants in remote regions if thats what it take to reduce the cost of Energy temporarily.

I know it sounds scary at first, and surely there a million things I havent thought of.
But the more you start to think about it, the more it starts making sense.
You start to realise that theres a million cost benefits and savings to be had as well.

We can save millions by just mass training the unskilled.
We can use Defense Force personell to provide security.
We can reduce foreign aid and give jobs instead.

You give Work for the Dole people jobs like whipper snipping the local church or retirement village?
And then wonder why they have no drive to help themselves?
I'll have them driving a D10 dozer instead.

Someimes the simplest answers are the best, and of course it will take skilled workers as well.
I'm just looking turn liabilities into assets and get more bang for our buck.
And after all, we are a nation driven by handouts and powered by debt, so what team exactly are you on?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 9:12:01 AM
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Armchair, your last two posts certainly show where you are coming from
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 11:51:03 AM
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Hows that exactly?
Where's Pauline when you need her?
"Please explain".

That's not a response, that's like a 3year old not getting what they want.
Did you spend too many yrs doing a cushy job at Dreamworld and not sure whether you're Arthur or Martha anymore?
I guess I could forgive you for that, given the times.
What does your response mean?
Should I consult an astrologist, or maybe a swami, or a clairvoyant?
Do I read minds? maybe I should try.
Is teacup reading effective?
Am I a public information booth?
Please enlighten us all with your thoughts instead of getting your panties all bunched up in a wad...
Do tell...
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 2:54:19 PM
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Turnbull is lucky that Abbott did the hard yards for him. Imagine the mess if Labor and their treacherous Greens sidekicks were still in power though.

Both sides of Parliament and especially Labor and Greens have been ruled by the political correctness of 'diversity' that wags the immigration policy dog.

Neither side of Parliament wants to be held accountable for bending over backwards for manipulative illegal immigrants and the 'asylum seeker' industry of lawyers and NGOs who suck mightily ($billions!) from the trough of the taxpayers money. So mistakes are far more likely than not and all involved are desperately covering up the unforeseen negative consequences of their slack policies.

When John Howard was PM, his immigration minister Amanda Vanstone turned over her own department's decision and went contrary to the advive of the Department of Foreign Affairs as well as Italian Police to allow a notorious Mafia boss to remain in Australia. Vanstone was minister when psychopathic (aren't they all?) Islamic terrorist Man Haron Monis (Martin Place, Sydney siege) was allowed to remain too. Of course Amanda Vanstone doesn't remember any of that from the 'thousands' of similar cases, she says.

Nor would Labor ministers (and LNP, example being Fraser and 'those' Lebanese Muslims) remember or want to talk about any of the hundreds of serious offences including sexual assaults, drug trafficking and gun crime that is down to imports.

Immigration is the sacred cow and even illegal immigrants have received the kid gloves treatment. They burned down expensive facilities and were excused by the lunar Leftists.

At least Turnbull is holding the line to protect Australian borders. If he weakens, the LNP can forget government and the quick churn of governments in Canberra will be a permanent feature.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 4:09:19 PM
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This subject, initiated by an intellectual midget, has gone on long enough. Who will be the first to set up a whine for the Somali idiot her set herself alight? Come on you Lefty drongos: start preaching to us about how it's all our fault, that she should be allowed to stay in Australia.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 5:14:20 PM
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