Paul,

Anyone on a TPV is given protection and the access to welfare and work until their country of origin becomes safe. However, they cannot bring in family members or travel back to their home country without losing their TPV.

After a decade or so the TPV becomes permanent.

Under my 'No Free Rides Plan' these people would be put to work to cover their expenses, and while they seek asylum we'll give them food, shelter and safety but they will be working to pay their way and our country will get the benefits of paying them wages equivalent to the nation they came from, if they can't prove where they came from they get paid the minimum, and then we'll know who they are.

They won't be turned loose on the Australian public but will have to go to a work camp/settlement to build National Infrastructure the same as our own welfare recipients, prison inmates, fine and hecs debt defaulters, and so forth will be made to do.

Ultimately we benefit.
No more free rides.

"same leaky boat" Jayb is that more of your tongue in cheek. or are you sitting more venom?

Armchair, one of the basic tenets of Australian society, is that we are all treated equally under the law, including industrial law, even visitors or in this case asylum seekers. When it comes to wages you advocate "they will be working to pay their way and our country will get the benefits of paying them wages equivalent to the nation they came from" I assume very low wages.
You claim humanitarianism, yet demand punishment for these people, not the way JayB demands, (yet you have failed to be critical of JayB's extremists opinions) that they be punished but in another way, through exploitation.

Shadow, with Dutton rightly granting work permits to about 14,000 asylum seekers on bridging visas living with the community. Do you not agree that, that in itself, for those who obtain work will facilitate their total absorption into the Australian community and eventually give them all the rights of an Australian citizen.
For the lucky ones who get a bridging visa, work permit and do obtain work it is highly likely that will be their ticket into Australia.

I like to wind certain DH's up. So to all else, I shouldn't be concerned about what I say, sometimes. It's just my inane sense of humour. ;-)

Paul,

I was not comfortable with Labor not allowing those on Bridging visas to work, as that is against the UNHCR charter. However, there is no requirement in the charter for permanent residence.

It is a pity that most of those with the right to work make little or no attempt to do so.

I agree with you Shadow, those in the community given their circumstances should be actively seeking work. I also understand language and skill would be a problem, the unemployment rate for them would be well above average.
The whole refugee issues is a major world problem, and not just for Australia, I do sympathies with our politicians from all sides, trying to come up with the answers when there is probably no answer that will satisfy all the stakeholders. My concern is the problem will only get worse in the long term unless real action is taken now, At the moment in our region things are relatively quite, but that can change tomorrow.