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Manus Island, Illegal.

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Paul1405,

Your mind-reading of Malcolm Turnbull and ors is your wishful thinking and spin, entirely without any factual basis as usual.

How do you get on with your missus? Do you always mind-read her as actually wanting something despite her adamant statements to the contrary?

How does anyone ever convince you that they mean what they say? -That is where their decision is not satisfactory to you of course.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 2 May 2016 8:17:33 AM
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Paul,

What you forget is that when Labor came into office in 2007 there were only 4 detainees, when they left office there were nearly 30 000, and since the coalition implemented sovereign borders not one illegal boat has made it to Aus.

The short term solution is to deal with the Labor/green legacy, and the long term solution is to continue with the boat turn arounds and ensure that no illegal boats deposit future detainees.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 2 May 2016 8:26:48 AM
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Of course if Paul1405 and head honcho Greens like Sarah Two Dads want to put their money where their mouths are and undertake to take in and support some of the previous arrivals who are on Centrelink, I daresay no-one would be objecting.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 2 May 2016 8:43:38 AM
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I think the only real solution to stop the bleeding in the country is to end the 'get something for nothing' mentality.

End the idea that if criminals need to be incarcerated, we need to pay for their mistakes.
End the idea that if people don't want to work, that taxpayers give them a free ride.
End the idea that if students don't pay their HECS debts there will be no penalty.
End the idea that if refugees come here, they get a free ride.
End the idea that we need to find foreign wars for our troops to be involved in when at peace.
End the idea that corporations like McDonalds, Virgin and William Hill pay zero tax.
End the idea that politicians can make laws for us, and themselves too.
End the idea that government interest on debt is a great way to spend taxes.

There's always talk about the state of the economy, it never goes away.
Why should be care about the governments financial problems if they are intent to throw money away left, right and centre.
If they don't have a plan, why should we care.

This refugee issue is pathetic.
They throw money away ($55 million +) and they can't even come up with policies..
Why do we pay them? they should be paying us, for being forced to tolerate their rubbish.

I think the answer to refugee problem and all the handout inclined are JOBS.
'Work for Welfare'
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 2 May 2016 8:45:32 AM
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Shadow, what about the 29,000 asylum seekers in the community at present on bridging visas. What is the long term plan for them?

Beach, simply a pathetic idea.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 2 May 2016 11:20:10 AM
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p1405: Shadow, what about the 29,000 asylum seekers in the community at present on bridging visas. What is the long term plan for them?

The best thing Australia can do send them back to whence they came, preferably in the same leaky boat.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 2 May 2016 11:49:29 AM
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