p1405: My concern is the problem will only get worse in the long term unless real action is taken now, At the moment in our region things are relatively quite, but that can change tomorrow.

To stop it getting worse is quite simple. Just ban anyone connected to Islam from coming to Australia & remove those in Australia that have a connection to Islam. Preferably by leaky boat. Then stop paying the Jizya Tax (Aid) to Islamic Countries.

That would fix Australia's Economic woe's in 10 years.

Paul,
First of all I never said these people were going to be a part of Australian society.
I said we should bring them here give them food, shelter and jobs to make them pay for their stay.
In my opinion that is giving them asylum, safety from the turmoil in their own country.
Food, Shelter and Safety, and a way to earn you keep.
If I'm genuinely escaping Syria, then I'll be grateful for and happy with that.
They can take themselves and any extra money earned home when its safe to do so.

If NZ offer were to offer me a Job at Aussie pay rates and feed and house me as well thats not exploitation its an opportunity to get ahead.

I'm not trying to punish these people, I'm trying to offer them a better deal than they already have, one one thats mutually beneficial and one where the first thing they learn is personal responsibility, just the same as I would for all the other people living on a handout.

Not "I'm here! Equality! I want to ride the handout train too!"

Also these people do 'newly created' jobs and therefore dont provide direct competion with any Australians for their existing jobs.

And really, what difference is paying foreigners less when the true reality is seeing Australian jobs go overseas where the cheaper labour is anyway? It really makes no difference and we need to be smarter with our money.

They can take the money they earn back to their own countries, therefore helping their nation, and we will have major national infrastucture projects built (previously unaffordable) resulting in creating real australian business and job opportunities.

At least I would see that people take personal responsibilty and make an effort not think a handout is a right and that would make our country strong again.

Whats your plan? - more and more debt? more and more foreigners? more and more handouts?

Lefties tactics attacking anything they don't agree with is right Bazz, and I'm starting to see it more clearly now.

Take this asylum people issue.
Paul argues that we shouldn't tar all refugees with the same brush,
Whilst on the other hand the left claim its PC to denigrate ALL men for a so-called gender pay gap that doesn't exist for 90% of them.
I'm not sure they equality means.
It's whatever BS story that works for their agenda at the time, seems to me.

Equality is just a term for the redistribution of wealth from the have's to the have not's.
If you want to throw that word around without being full of yourself then be more specific.
Do you mean 'equality of opportunity' or 'equality of outcome'?

You can't really have capitalism, equality and democracy all at the same time.
They are all just tools cleverly played upon to manage us.

Wheres the equality for the millions of Australians who go to work to pay for the millions of Australians that don't?

People who use the word equality are deluded.
They're either really dumb, or pushing an agenda under the condescending premise of assuming everyone else is.

Armchair, your solution to a complex problem is rather simplistic, I assume when you talk of infrastructure you are referring to massive projects such as roads, rail, ports etc. These undertakings require a lot more input than simply applying a mass of unskilled people to a task. To demand that, say 10,000 asylum seekers, construct a road from A to B is a nonsense.

You said; "They won't be turned loose on the Australian public but will have to go to a work camp/settlement to build National Infrastructure the same as our own welfare recipients, prison inmates, fine and hecs debt defaulters, and so forth will be made to do."

This is Stalinist type nonsense, the gulag no less. Herd all the undesirables together then punish them for their crimes.

Please explain in more detail your plan for work camps. How will they operate? Will there be armed guards, we don't want people absconding, now do we

Paul1405, "To demand that, say 10,000 [economic migrants], construct a road from A to B is a nonsense"

There I fixed that for you.

You are quite right, you couldn't expect any of them to do an honest day's work. However, hey will beat a path up to the local Centrelink and for free housing, medical care and whatever else is going.

Remember the halcyon(sic) days of economic migrants under the Labor+Greens sidekicks governments? A reminder for the Progressives' 'Useful Idiots' who would do the same again,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0MHRSFz6FM

Beach, still giving out the "fatherly" advice I see. No need to fix up my quotes, stick to what you do best, giving advice to the likes of "Uncle Kurtis" on the 'Sex talk with little niece' thread. made yourself look good there.