Paul1405,
I don't even know why your arguing with me.
I'm not even sure I actually disagreed with anything you said, just going around in circles defending myself from your accusations.
Maybe I made your brain crash and its stuck in some weird loop trying to win some argument from days ago.
'Malfunction.. Cannot Compute!'
What exactly are we arguing about again?

Hitler's speeches, right.
I don't actually speak German, so I haven't studied them.
But its an interesting tidbit of info.
But what are you saying, that because I speak a certain way I'm responsible for what exactly?

You know I'm really sick of people trying to manipulate the outcome of discussions by using Hitler, it's really pathetic and I'm trying hard to understand why people do it.

Maybe you come from the group of European immigrants who came here after WWII and the events of that war are a significant part of your very existence here in this nation.
I accept that, but you too must accept mine.

My family goes back to the Third fleet when my distant relative was sent here after getting caught stealing a sheep.
I'm predominately white but I've had indigenous Australian in my ancestry since the mid 1800's.
My great grandfather was promoted to commanding officer on the battlefield at Gallipoli after his commanding officer was shot.
Many other relatives also went to war to fight for this Commonwealth and Australia.

Bottom line is my existence in this country isn't framed around Hitler and WWII.
And my family made a sacrifice for those wars and this nation to defend people like yourself against Hitler so I'm totally sick and tired of having him used as a tool against me, for something as pathetic as arguing over nothing.

Using Hitler to win an argument means nothing to me, my family's been here a lot longer than that.
It's you 'the relative newcomer immigrant' who thinks saying it is going to have some kind of meaning to me, but what you don't realise is that from my point of view you just look stupid.

Paul,

"Where does Hitler fit into all this, he used the same method in speeches of criticizing the singular, and at the same time extrapolating it to cover all Jews."

Well, that is your modus operandi to a T. As they say, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. How do you feel now that you realise that your tactics are a copy of Hitler's?

Armchair, if your going to present a "scenario", it would be good to be honest about the motives behind it. It was clear that you were not referring to yourself but to asylum seeker, and without qualification it extrapolated to cover all asylum seekers. As I said your "scenario" was an attempt to draw Suse in for criticism.
If you had presented your "scenario" to me I would have had a simple answer; :Knowing it was you, I would have slammed the door in your face!" Th her credit Suse didn't take your bait.

The other criticism I have of the sensitive brigade is when JayB mad what in my mind was an outrageous comment about drowning people, none of you were there to challenge him, ever though many make sanctimonious comments about the deaths at sea, yet ignore that. JayB did try to negate his comment later with "it was only tongue in cheek".

Shadow criticizing the singular, and at the same time extrapolating it to cover all, I use it, you use it, probably Julius Cesar used it. It has proven to be a very effective line of argument. Example; the way you throw up some blokes name, who was an unsuccessful candidate for the Greens in a council election at one time, and later charged with pedophile offences. Knowing I am a Green you even tried to link him to me personally. I don't recall any of the sanctimonious brigade jumping to my defence on that on, not that I wanted them to.

Paul,

I was just pointing out your hypocrisy, as you were the first to raise it.

I can see that border protection is going to be an election issue again with Labor MPs undermining Electricity bill and saying they are against offshore detention.

It does seem to be a tactic of those lefties that are politically very
confirmed in their attitude that it does not matter what you say if
you are not for them then you are condemned outright !

You can be insulted and abused and if they had their way you would be
gaoled for your political opinions.
There was a report of some warmist left group wanting all deniers
to be arrested and gaoled. I think it was overseas somewhere from
memory but it does expose the train of left opinion.

When it does hit the fan, just watch the violence of left demonstrations.
What we see now will be nothing.

I believe in liberty and freedom for all people BUT
I DON'T believe that Australians should be forced to give up OUR Liberties and Freedoms so that foreigners can have theirs.
I'm always going to put the greater good of Australians and Australian taxpayers first.
I have to weigh up the needs of a taxpayer on a hospital waiting list against the needs of a foreigner.
There's nothing racist about it.

I won't support something that destroys our liberties and freedoms or places an unfair burden on the Australian taxpayer.
Do you get it?

I don't want to see people drowning in the ocean or being mistreated or inhumanely in an offshore detention centre making us look bad.
Why would I take pride in something like that?

My 'scenario' wasn't an attempt to draw Suseonline in for criticism or win an argument based on anticipating her response.
I hadn't thought that far - it was simply a comment.

I didn't criticise JayB for his comment because I don't believe he's actually going to do it, and the country's become too politically correct already.
You called me Hitler but you don't actually believe I'm planning to invade Europe do you?

Regarding Criticising the Singular: I didn't know it was called that, but thanks for the insight.
Smearing someones name by associating them with other people or issues, tarring them with the same brush?
I didn't mean to imply that all refugees are of that ilk, but I don't need to if its known that some are.
My concerns of my 'scenario' are valid and reasonable if there's a plan to turn them all loose upon the Australian public.
And I'm not sure it's right that Australian taxpayers be burdened by the cost of whoever happens to turn up.

If you are a post WWII European immigrant, (nothing implied) might I ask if you may be a little biased in your own opinion on this issue, given that once upon a time you too were a boat person seeking a better life, and you can relate to these peoples hardships?