With all the whining about how we are supposed to be 'ignoring' all other victims of domestic violence other than women, I haven't seen any evidence that this is correct.
Nowhere have I seen written that the authorities will only help heterosexual female victims, so all the carry-on is merely lies.

Onthebeach continues his paranoia about all women, and his love affair with his sex therapist. Meanwhile, the business of the rest of the community getting on with trying to deal with domestic violence goes on.
At the end of the day, a few disaffected men worried about losing their masculinity if they face the truth about domestic violence is never really going to be a problem.

Can we have some details concerning Arndt's: "....Over 1700 articles in peer-reviewed journals conclude show domestic violence is not a gender issue, both women and men are actively involved in most violence in the home, women often initiate violence, and it isn’t simply self-defence. Even though physical violence by women causes fewer injuries, it is by no means harmless with women more likely to use weapons and men sustaining a third of the injuries from partner violence."?

Where are these articles?

Which journals "peer-reviewed" them?

What is the detail pertaining to these artices?

http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/the-one-in-three-claim-about-male-domestic-violence-victims-is-a-myth-20150429-1mw3bs.html

"The claim made by many men's rights advocates that one in three victims of domestic violence are men is false. Utterly false.

It is, however, a myth that has taken hold, having been cited in The Sydney Morning Herald, Q&A and the Daily Telegraph to name only a few. As the basis of a submission to the Senate enquiry into domestic violence, this myth now also poses the serious risk of altering the way governments approach the issue.

As Dr Michael Flood, a Senior Lecturer in Sociology at University of Wollongong, said, the One in Three claim "could be described more accurately as a campaign against efforts to address men's violence against women."

So let's look at where the myth comes from, and exactly why it is wrong.

It seems to have first appeared on a Men's Rights Activist website, which claims a source is The Australia Bureau of Statistics (ABS) Personal Safety Survey (PSS).

At first glance, the data in Table 3 of the PSS does appear to suggest that males are 33 per cent of people who have experienced an act of violence from a current partner in the last 12 months. That number, however, is clearly marked with a warning that states: "Estimate has a relative standard error of 25 per cent to 50 per cent and should be used with caution."

Cont'd....

Suse nd Poirot,

Do you think that a woman in fear of her life should be allowed an effective means of self defence?

Cont'd...

http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/the-one-in-three-claim-about-male-domestic-violence-victims-is-a-myth-20150429-1mw3bs.html

"Apart from the statistical issue, the very nature of the question is problematic. Domestic violence is extremely complex and it's not unusual for victims to be confused about whether their relationship is actually abusive. Nor can it always be defined by simply identifying "an act of violence".

As Leslie Morgan Steiner said in her TED talk:

"I didn't know he was abusing me. Even though he held those loaded guns to my head, pushed me down stairs, threatened to kill our dog, pulled the key out of the car ignition as I drove down the highway, poured coffee grinds on my head as I dressed for a job interview, I never once thought of myself as a battered wife."

"Even if you were to accept the problematic claim that PSS is a reliable indicator of domestic violence, what it actually says is that only 1 in 5 of the victims are men, 4 in 5 victims are women and most of those women experienced more than one incident of violence.

So much for the One in Three theory. But this is still not the full story:

The PSS does not address the effect of the violence on the victim.

It doesn't ask if the victim was physically injured by the violence.

It doesn't ask if they felt frightened or helpless or controlled.

It doesn't ask if the violent act was committed in self-defence.

It doesn't ask if respondents wanted to leave the relationship because of the violence, or if they were able to do so.

It doesn't ask if they needed help to leave, or if that help was available and effective."

"As Dr Flood told Daily Life, "the real issue here is that the PSS is limited as a tool in understanding the dynamics of domestic violence."

The One-in-Three claim deliberately ignores those limits in its attempts to divert attention away from male violence.

Obviously this does not mean that we should ignore the needs of male victims. Nor does it mean that we are doing so."

Poirot, "Well I do have to claim rushing my replies (as I have a life) didn't notice the quote marks and I haven't read all of Bettina's waffle so apologies again"

Not the excuse you used previously for that unprincipled tactic.

Interesting that like Suseonline you don't read evidence you object to.

Along with Suseonline you are just up to your old tricks of hijacking the thread along personal lines to prevent disclosure of facts you don't happen to agree with.

BTT

mhaze is right, "If the white ribbon poseurs were fair-dinkum about this they'd be looking to prioritise action where it would be of most use. That is, they would seek out the places where DV is most prevalent and work to save the women there".

Bettina Arndt is calling for all to question the biassed assumptions and sloppy, self-serving 'research' being promulgated on domestic violence.

http://www.bettinaarndt.com.au/news/domestic-violence-and-white-ribbon-day-help-change-the-debate/

The slanted, sometimes outright fraudulent research and advice being proffered to government - at the expense of taxpayers and many victims, eg children, men and LGBT, indigenous women too - shores up the essentially contested feminist patriarchy paradigm, advantaging the dogmatism, wallets and careers of the already advantaged educated, professional, middle class women who are feminism in the West.

First, it is unconscionable that incomplete, slanted and fraudulent advice is being knowingly spruiked to government and the public by educated professionals, including some academics in universities, who are putting their own benefit, career and entitlement ahead of community good. They have no respect for or investment in good science either.

Secondly, the inevitable negative consequences that flow from poor advising is that taxpayers' dollars are NOT being targeted and expended for best effect and value for taxpayers' money is not being obtained. Nor is there the fairness that should apply in laws (that should be based on evidence, but what if that 'evidence' is biassed and deeply flawed?).

Of course concerned citizens should be writing to those well-intentioned but misled White Ribbon Day ambassadors and to populist politicians who swing like weather vanes and avoid the challenges of drafting good policy.

Lol Onthebeach, so everyone else is mislead and listens to fraudulent claims about DV except you? You know that all the data is wrong about the vast majority of DV being perpetrated by men against women because ...how?
Have you been gathering your own data then?

I would suggest most intelligent people in government departments, universities and criminal data research are very capable of gathering and reading and deciphering data correctly, as you show absolutely no chance of being bright enough to do.
I would prefer to take my advice from proper statistics than from a sex therapist who just wants to sell books for herself.

You haven't got a leg to stand on Onthebeach, and you know it.
The evidence against your little stand is enormous, so no point in rabbiting on and on....