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Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 26 November 2015 6:13:09 PM
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Posted by *Runner* Thursday, 26 November 2015 5:52:29 PM
" ... Strangely enough, most prison officers will tell you that working in the womens units are the worst for violence. They bash the << out of each other even more so than the males. ... " Yeah, remember *Prisoner* with Lizzy & Vinegar Tits and all the crew? HaHaHa .. And also *Runner* the cleaners will tell you that the Sheilas are heaps filthier in the dunnies than the guys, that's for sure. Posted by DreamOn, Thursday, 26 November 2015 7:00:32 PM
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'Hitting Home' (ABC)
Why didn't the ABC seek balance as required by its Charter by inviting a One in Three Campaign representative onto the program? -Given that the program's producers knew that 'One in Three Campaign' had a stake in any discussion of domestic violence and the ABC had scheduled 'Dorothy Dixer questions to challenge One in Three's information? Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 26 November 2015 7:30:28 PM
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//"You actually see high rates of reported one-off incidents," Humphreys said, noting that 9% of men and 14% of women had reported being victimised.//
Once is all it takes to kill or permanently disable somebody, so once is too often. Is it only abuse on the fourth and subsequent occasions? Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 26 November 2015 9:50:12 PM
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My above post should have referred to Q&A.
Poirot of course has rushed like a moth to a flame to quote featherweight journo Jennifer Noyes. Must have resulted from a Google search. Now because Poirot has been so scathing about the expertise of Bettina Arndt, whose qualifications and experience are not so shabby at all and her articles and books well researched, it is only appropriate to check the recent output from Poirot's source, the inexperienced reporter, Jennifer Noyes. Jennifer writes about such important feminist issues as a mother taking the opportunity to be offended by schoolgirls being 'forced' to wear a non-white tee-shirt over swimmers at a school pool party. Which was declared sexist, "implied their bodies are indecent, sexual, and need to be covered up". Then Jennifer contradicted herself by adding "and no, a white t-shirt is not enough, because we all know sixth graders in wet t-shirts are just asking for trouble". Here is the article, http://tinyurl.com/q2b2rf6 Having been involved with school P&Cs, School Councils and sports volunteering for years I might suggest that the mother who took offence and the aptly named Jenny (sic) know little about precocious Year 6 schoolgirls. I have also seen more than enough air-headed, interfering parents who go out of their way to be offended and get a power-trip out of forcing teachers and school administrations to back down. Reporter Jenny's conclusion from the subject Q&A was up to her usual standard: emotional, slanted and overreaching. Dumb-ass. No further comment needed. Some of Q&A's guests did not let the ABC's producers down. For example, Moo Baulch, the flatteringly titled 'CEO' of Domestic Violence NSW, asserted without challenge that, "male offenders are often skilled at pretending to be the victim in order to play the system". Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 27 November 2015 12:05:35 AM
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Still trying to flog a dead horse here I see Onthebeach.
Police statistics, as given by Poirot, and as used by all intelligent people to realise the truth about domestic violence, do not lie. The policeman on the Q&A show seemed extremely experienced to me, and he has obviously been on the front line of dealing with domestic violence for many years. I think his experience well and truly trumps yours and the sex therapist. In any case, aren't you being hypocritical watching the ABC at all, what with all the c##p you level at it...ad nauseum? Why not check out more articles written by Michael Flood? He certainly has far more experience with domestic violence research than the sex therapist will ever have. If she is your new poster girl for DV, then you aren't doing very well. Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 27 November 2015 1:14:52 AM
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Notwithstanding Arndt's fevered attempt to defend her hobby horse and spray around her article and denigrate the ABC prior to the screening of "Hitting Home":
On the subject of One in Three:
http://www.dailylife.com.au/dl-people/oneinthree-myth-unanimously-busted-on-hitting-home-finale-of-qa-20151125-gl8dzp.html
"That 'statistic' has become a mantra for MRAs - but despite being constantly debunked it continues to seep into mainstream discussions around domestic violence. The claim is that one in three domestic violence victims are male...."
"Last night, on the special Q&A program (and season finale) following Hitting Home, this statistic was raised again by an audience member. Thankfully, this time, the panel being asked were all well informed in the field of domestic violence. And their unanimous debunking of the claim was powerful."
"Social Services Minister Christian Porter got straight to the point: "I don't accept that statistic. I don't know where it's come from, and I'll be having a good look at it.
"This is, very sadly - and something we just have to be blunt and honest and open about or we'll never break the cycle - this a problem perpetrated by men against women ... almost exclusively."
"NSW Assistant Police Commissioner Michael Fuller went further into the statistical reality in his state: "Around 25 per cent of men present as victims of DV assaults ... but of that 25 per cent, more than half of the offenders are still male."
"Any victim of crime deserves a service," he added, "but we can't lose sight of the fact that for more than half of the cohort of male victims the offenders are male themselves."
Domestic Violence NSW CEO Moo Baulch pointed out that male offenders are often skilled at pretending to be the victim in order to play the system, but said better data is needed to really understand what is going on."
"You actually see high rates of reported one-off incidents," Humphreys said, noting that 9% of men and 14% of women had reported being victimised. "But actually when you look at who's reporting four or more incidents, 89 per cent were women."