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Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 1:02:14 PM
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Suseonline, "I am not racist at all"
Then you had better contact the site moderator about that other Suseonline who has been dumping on 'Whites' and 'White' men especially for years on this site. Suseonline, "I couldn't be bothered reading any other c##p articles or websites" To the contrary, Bettina Arndt is a well-qualified, highly credible source. Courageous too, for being one of the rare scientists to challenge sloppy research and feminists misleading the public. It is a judgement of you and your extreme bigotry against certain groups in society, examples being men, Christians and 'Whites'(sic) that your mind is closed. Yet as a left radical feminist you are forever defending and promoting Islam. Typically for self-loathing leftists and gynocentric radical feminists, Islam is to be preferred and those despised 'White' Anglo-Saxons are to be diversified out of existence. -The lunar rationalisation being that the 'enemy of your enemy is your friend'. Of course you demonise men. You imply you are only replying to this thread to scoff, sledge and deny, but then you have been criticised for trying to derail threads on similar issues in the past and recently. Bettina Arndt's article on DV and White Ribbon Day raises important issues which you could attempt to argue against. That would be the positive, adult thing to do. But no, as always you have your bigoted head in the sand, ostrich-like, 'Nope, not reading it' you declare. Typical. Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 1:16:02 PM
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Suse,
otb says: "Most children growing up in violent homes are cowering not just from their fathers but their mothers as well..." Which would explain why women are currently murdered in DV incidents in this country at a rate of two a week. phanto's commentary is just inane....according to phanto, being controlled and bashed is entirely down to the woman for being anywhere near a domestic relationship in the first place. I see this is still the place to come for ludicrous commentary on the subject - Lol! Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 1:32:16 PM
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Poirot,
You are aware the quote was not mine. It was from Bettina Arndt's article. Falsely attributing it to me is an unprincipled ploy you have used before. It avoids recognition of that highly credible source, and you cropped to conceal the author's explanation. Here again, for those who may not always read earlier posts - a circumstance you were cynically trying to take advantage of. Bettina Arndt <Domestic violence and the demonization of men It has been an interesting exercise challenging the current witch hunt on domestic violence. As my article, silent victims, in the Weekend Australian points out, the zealots controlling debate on this issue are successfully demonizing men and white-washing women’s role in family violence. The reality is very different from the picture constantly presented of dangerous men terrorizing their families. Over 1700 articles in peer-reviewed journals conclude show domestic violence is not a gender issue, both women and men are actively involved in most violence in the home, women often initiate violence, and it isn’t simply self-defence. Even though physical violence by women causes fewer injuries, it is by no means harmless with women more likely to use weapons and men sustaining a third of the injuries from partner violence. Most children growing up in violent homes are cowering not just from their fathers but their mothers as well – all available Australian data clearly shows women are the major abusers of children. So what are these children to conclude from current public discussion of this issue –that only Dad’s violence matters? That only Dad can be held responsible for the terror these children experience? Surely this does nothing to break the cycle of violence putting future generations at risk. What’s scary is the constant stream of lies and misinformation being promoted in the current cultural dialogue, deliberate use of wrong statistics designed to promote men as the only villains. There are men working very hard to try to correct this misinformation, attempting to correct the record by contacting the politicians, bureaucrats and media commentators who persist in using deliberately inaccurate statistics..> Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 2:16:36 PM
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otb,
"You are aware the quote was not mine. It was from Bettina Arndt's article. Falsely attributing it to me is an unprincipled ploy you have used before...." Many apologies, otb,..is this better? otb quotes: "Most children growing up in violent homes are cowering not just from their fathers but their mothers as well..." "....It avoids recognition of that highly credible source, and you cropped to conceal the author's explanation." Apologies too for not including your "highly credible" sex therapist source! ........ While we're on the much loved OLO subject of victim blaming... "Domestic violence victim blaming 'rampant'" "Unconscious victim blaming is 'firmly entrenched' among Australians when discussing domestic violence, federal government research shows. Despite strong community support for ending domestic violence, the report by market research group TNS found Australians are taught from childhood to understate the severity of family violence. It also found males escaped blame for domestic abuse." "It found young men were taught to blame others for violence, while young women internalised the experience by blaming themselves. It argued there is 'little empathy towards the female experience' within the community. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull labelled the findings 'utterly unacceptable' and said addressing disrespect would be at the heart of any domestic violence policy." http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/11/25/domestic-violence-victim-blaming-rampant.html Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 2:35:12 PM
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ROFL!...can't go past otb's hysterical outburst at Suse.
"It is a judgement of you and your extreme bigotry against certain groups in society, examples being men, Christians and 'Whites'(sic) that your mind is closed. Yet as a left radical feminist you are forever defending and promoting Islam. Typically for self-loathing leftists and gynocentric radical feminists, Islam is to be preferred and those despised 'White' Anglo-Saxons are to be diversified out of existence. -The lunar rationalisation being that the 'enemy of your enemy is your friend'. Of course you demonise men. You imply you are only replying to this thread to scoff, sledge and deny, but then you have been criticised for trying to derail threads on similar issues in the past and recently. Bettina Arndt's article on DV and White Ribbon Day raises important issues which you could attempt to argue against. That would be the positive, adult thing to do. But no, as always you have your bigoted head in the sand, ostrich-like, 'Nope, not reading it' you declare. Typical." The "positive adult thing to do"...ROFL again....from the guy who can barely utter a sentence around here without demonising his usual targets with stupid epithets, be they feminists, femi-nazis, feminist nobs, progressives, leftists...etc. "...scoff, sledge and deny..." (otb's specialty!) Triple ROFL! What a whopping hypocrite you are otb. Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 2:45:57 PM
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How can they enter into domestic relationships when the overwhelming evidence is that such relationships present extremely high risk? Thirty per cent will be victims they tell us and then they plunge head long into that very situation they decry. Could there be more stupid behaviour than to take such extraordinary risks with one’s personal safety?
Every woman who raises the issue of domestic violence and how prominent it is should be asked why they enter into or remain in a domestic relationship. They should be challenged about how serious they are and how important the issue really is and then they should be presented with how they behave and the attitudes they have to domestic relationships.
It would be hard to find a more hypocritical stance on any topic in society than the one taken by women in relation to domestic violence. There is hardly a woman on the planet that does not view domestic relationships through rose coloured glasses. It is time that they began to act in accord with their abhorrence of domestic violence.