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DV & White Ribbon day – help change the debate

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It's a good question; why are we encouraging migrants whose religion/political organization allows and encourages domestic violence?

It's very hard to contain a fire when volatile fuel is continually added to it.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 2:55:05 PM
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Rofl indeed Poirot, it sounds like Onthebeach and his sex-therapist friend are getting hysterical over the fact that the vast majority of the community now realize that there is a huge problem with DV affected women, and their male perpetrators in Australia.

The men who are victims of DV are also victims overwhelmingly of other men, and the men on the whole have no where near the level of fear that female DV victims have.
So put that in your pipe and smoke it OTB, and have a fab white ribbon day...
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 3:35:47 PM
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Poirot & Suseonline,

This reply (to another party) by Bettina Arndt on her site dispels your misinterpretation and misrepresentation of what she is about,

Bettina November 21, 2015 at 3:19 pm #
"You are deliberately misunderstanding what we are trying to do. We are not proposing to undermine the important efforts of White Ribbon to address the issue of men’s violence. I support that work totally. What I don’t understand is why White Ribbon is so determined to deny the truth about violence in the home. What we want them to do is to, as you put it, is campaign against domestic abuse in all its forms, taking practical measures to spread compassion and mercy. Surely that is not such a big ask?"

Where do you have a problem with that?

Or as others ask, how can extending compassion to ALL victims of abuse in the home in any way detract from our care and support of women?
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 4:35:58 PM
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I think that even though it is crucial to highlight the wife beating husbands as is being done, that it should not be gender specific and more so, the focus should also include a broader consideration of abuse more generally,

(as well as the likely pre-cursors)

i.e emotional, verbal, psychological, neglect, the risks of substance etc

At least, that is certainly as it is taught at a tertiary level for educational purposes.

And you can bet they are mapping out all of the incidents and attempting to identify the triggers/alarm points.
Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 4:58:03 PM
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Just a quick poll of the male posters, who here has ever encountered a man who openly admits and tries to justify bashing his wife or girlfriend?
I've been in construction since I was 16, I've met thousands of men from all walks of life in an almost exclusively male industry yet I can't recall ever hearing a man admit to DV much less seek the approval of his actions from a group of men.
Normal people tend not to want to get involved in things that don't concern them and the truth is that what goes on behind closed doors is not our business and certainly not our responsibility.
When we detect a crime being committed we report it, that's our only obligation, if the crime is being committed before our eyes we call the Police and then intervene to stabilise the situation and buy time for the professionals.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 4:59:20 PM
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I had a male "friend" in primary school who used to bash his old grandma. It wasn't a friendship that lasted though and ended when me and my best buddy of that time stoned him in the laneway.

..

I was in a backpackers in Cairo with the staffer trying to tell me that it was time that I went to bed. I declined, and not long after one of the locals rolled in, grabbed the remote and changed channel. Within moments, we were watching a scene of a husband returning home and slapping the $%^& out of his wife.

And this person turns round, and I took him to mean, yeah, yeeah, this is great ey?! And how about you, do you enjoy slapping your wife too?
Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 5:59:30 PM
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