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Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 6:43:04 PM
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Who is 'we' Onthebeach?
You and the other good Ol' boys who want to derail a society that is finally standing up to the violent men who want to keep control over 'their' women? Too late. The truth is out now for all to see, and women are not hiding the truth anymore. And there are plenty of real, honest good men who support these women too. Any pathetic men who don't see the truth of domestic violence will be left behind, alone. And guess what? They have only themselves to blame...not the communists, Marxists, feminists, university lecturers or whatever other mad argument is put up. Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 1:09:22 AM
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Suseonline,
Off you go again with your obsessional prejudice and bluster against 'white' men. Now, what about taking the time to read the OP and the link? Most would be aware of Bettina Arndt, BSc, MPsych, an Australian sex therapist, journalist and clinical psychologist. Here is another article that others will find interesting and as a comment on your post, <Domestic violence and the demonization of men It has been an interesting exercise challenging the current witch hunt on domestic violence. As my article, silent victims, in the Weekend Australian points out, the zealots controlling debate on this issue are successfully demonizing men and white-washing women’s role in family violence. The reality is very different from the picture constantly presented of dangerous men terrorizing their families. Over 1700 articles in peer-reviewed journals conclude show domestic violence is not a gender issue, both women and men are actively involved in most violence in the home, women often initiate violence, and it isn’t simply self-defence. Even though physical violence by women causes fewer injuries, it is by no means harmless with women more likely to use weapons and men sustaining a third of the injuries from partner violence. Most children growing up in violent homes are cowering not just from their fathers but their mothers as well – all available Australian data clearly shows women are the major abusers of children. So what are these children to conclude from current public discussion of this issue –that only Dad’s violence matters? That only Dad can be held responsible for the terror these children experience? Surely this does nothing to break the cycle of violence putting future generations at risk. What’s scary is the constant stream of lies and misinformation being promoted in the current cultural dialogue, deliberate use of wrong statistics designed to promote men as the only villains. There are men working very hard to try to correct this misinformation, attempting to correct the record by contacting the politicians, bureaucrats and media commentators who persist in using deliberately inaccurate statistics. It is horrifying to see how often these efforts are totally ignored.> Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 5:04:00 AM
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contd..
<Amongst the main offenders is the ABC where most journalists, broadcasters and producers skew debate over true nature of violence in the home. I’ve seen correspondence with the culprits, who continue to use misleading statistics despite being presented with evidence from our key data collection bodies, such as the Australian Bureau of Statistics, showing they are using wrong information. Many make their personal prejudices on this issue abundantly clear – in her ABC breakfast show Virginia Trioli recently sneered at the possibility that men could be victims of domestic violence. In the last week I have appeared on commercial radio programmes across the country discussing this issue – but almost all the key ABC programmes refused to touch it. The exception was Steve Austin, Brisbane’s morning presenter, who gave the issue his customary intelligent, open-minded consideration. See this link to listen to his interview. When Mark Scott was appointed to his current position, I wrote to him pointing out that the real bias in the ABC has nothing to do with giving equal time to politicians from opposing parties but rather the refusal of most of the organization to touch topics which challenge the ABC’s current orthodoxy on any number of social issues. Domestic violence is a classic example and the ABC is true to form, showing total allegiance to the views promoted by the domestic violence lobby groups.> http://www.bettinaarndt.com.au/news/domestic-violence-and-the-demonization-of-men/ Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 5:05:01 AM
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Not just violent white men Onthebeach, ALL violent men. I am not racist at all.
I have read plenty of 'men's rights' groups articles, with people like you wielding their pens aggressively, trying to derail the DV truth. I couldn't be bothered reading any other c##p articles or websites, because I, like the majority of the community, won't change my mind on this subject. Happy white ribbon day. Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 10:12:39 AM
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meanwhile we continue to import men whose culture/religion believe its fine to belt wives who refuse sex. Same feminist are happy to allow encourage Government not to discrimnate against these men. Its seems more about feminist getting a power kick then dealing with the issues. I wonder how many of those men on the boat with Sarah heading towards Greece had beaten their women!
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 10:19:41 AM
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http://www.bettinaarndt.com.au/news/domestic-violence-and-white-ribbon-day-help-change-the-debate/
<Domestic violence and White Ribbon day – help change the debate
by Bettina on November 21, 2015
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Every year I grind my teeth on White Ribbon Day listening to listening to their spokespeople misrepresent this issue, fudging the statistics and totally denying any responsibility for women in family violence. Next week across the country many hundreds of people are running White Ribbon events, over 500 people are now Ambassadors, pushing the party line.
Many of the sportsmen and other eminent people who are involved in this are well-meaning, assuming they are simply helping our society overcome a critical social problem. It is very likely they have never been presented with the facts included in my article, the 40 years of research showing most family violence involves both men and women and mothers are the major abusers of children.
I feel we need to respectfully approach these people and inform them that we are not denying the importance of the work they are doing in addressing the issue of violent men but unfortunately they are also being drawn into a divisive campaign which distorts the truth about family violence and denies many victims the chance to be heard and supported.
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The domestic violence lobby groups have got away with their distorted campaign for far too long because they have silenced their critics. I am shocked by how many people have written to me saying I was ‘brave’ or ‘courageous’ to speak out on this issue. Come on! We live in a free, democratic society and none of us should be nervous about being heard on this important issue. But nothing will change unless we all start making sure we get our message across.>