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DV & White Ribbon day – help change the debate

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Suseonline,

The NSW Assistant Police Commissioner Michael Fuller said that any victim of crime deserves a service, ie fairness and equality, which is the direct opposite of what you believe where victims of domestic violence are concerned.

Bettina Arndt, "The lack of resources for male victims is just extraordinary. I was particularly struck by news that $100,000 was awarded to support pets of female victims in Victoria but not a cent for men suffering abuse."
http://www.bettinaarndt.com.au/news/domestic-violence-and-white-ribbon-day-help-change-the-debate/

Is that your concept of fairness and equality?
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 27 November 2015 2:03:27 AM
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Suse and Poirot,

Do you think that a woman in fear of her life should be allowed an effective means of self defence?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 27 November 2015 6:53:30 AM
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//Do you think that a woman in fear of her life should be allowed an effective means of self defence?//

Let me guess... this would be the type of self defence that goes bang? In 45 US states, and also Iceland for some reason, it isn't prohibited for individuals to carry Tasers. Or aren't they effective enough for you?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 27 November 2015 8:00:46 AM
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Spot on, Suse.

otb,

Nice try, but Jennifer's article merely reported verbatim Q&A's discussion. I'm not citing her as some kind of credible expert like your are Bettina Arndt - whose main claim to fame is editing "The Forum"...the kind of "Australian adult sex education magazine" you were likely to find stashed under your teenage brother's bed, circa 1978....(Lol!)

You say:

"The NSW Assistant Police Commissioner Michael Fuller said that any victim of crime deserves a service, ie fairness and equality, which is the direct opposite of what you believe where victims of domestic violence are concerned."

Nice cherry pick.

Fuller also said:

"NSW Assistant Police Commissioner Michael Fuller went further into the statistical reality in his state: "Around 25 per cent of men present as victims of DV assaults ... but of that 25 per cent, more than half of the offenders are still male."

"Any victim of crime deserves a service," he added, "but we can't lose sight of the fact that for more than half of the cohort of male victims the offenders are male themselves."

Why didn't you quote the rest of Fuller's sentence if you're interested in "balanced" representation?

And you're still quoting Arndt's misrepresentation that the "pets" are solely the "pets of female victims".

The upshot of that is often that a woman is intimidated and controlled by her partner's threat to harm of kill "their" pet - and stays in the relationship to protect the pet - and is in turn harmed or killed herself, or even just further abused in general.

Is that your concept of fairness and equality?

Arndt's misrepresentation of that common situation is a further indictment of her agenda.
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 27 November 2015 8:34:35 AM
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Toni,

"//Do you think that a woman in fear of her life should be allowed an effective means of self defence?//

Let me guess... this would be the type of self defence that goes bang? In 45 US states, and also Iceland for some reason, it isn't prohibited for individuals to carry Tasers. Or aren't they effective enough for you?"

Whether Tassers are effective or not is beside the point, women in fear of their lives or serious physical injury are not allowed to possess them in Australia.
The PC brigade seem to prefer that women be killed rather than allow them any means of self defence.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 27 November 2015 9:06:41 AM
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Don't be ridiculous Is Mise, even in shoot-me-up USA you don't hear of many women shooting their intimate partners dead. More often it is quite the opposite.
Personally, if I was in a DV situation, which I never have been, I may very well shoot the bastard if I got the chance.

I believe the police tell women here they would be worse off carrying a gun because their loved one could grab it and turn it against her anyway.
Mind you, the police could be wrong...
Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 27 November 2015 9:46:58 AM
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