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Guns - Are Australians rearming themselves by stealth ?

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is Mise, offensive is not necessarily upsetting, and you don't upset me, It simply shows you have ran out of argument and are prepared to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find some mud to sling. So be it. Some pornographic material is offensive to me, but its not upsetting.

p.s At least I post things that are funny at times, so my friends think. eg to ask if you are Jed Clampett (obvious your not, he's dead and you are very much alive) I don't find offensive, after all old Jed was a nice guy, and I did think you were most likely a nice bloke as well.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 15 November 2015 6:01:23 AM
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Paul,

Scraping the bottom of the barrel?

The immunization denier and Marrickville Man are not at the bottom of the barrel but up the top with the rest of the slime on the stagnant contents; up there with the lying leaders who use Parliamentary Privilege to besmirch honest people.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 15 November 2015 7:15:42 AM
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If one kiddy-fiddling Green makes all Greens kiddy-fiddlers, what does that make Catholic clergy? Or Scout Leaders? Actually, quite nice people for the most part. I spent over a decade in the Scouts and never got fiddled. Maybe I was just a particularly ugly child. Or maybe not all members of a particular share all their beliefs and opinions, and just have some beliefs in common. Cory Bernardi has a long track record of making statements on an equal level of stupidity with anti-vaccination arguments; it does not follow that all Liberals are as thick as Cory. Similarly, one member of a political party being convicted of an offence doesn't mean that all members of that party share the same criminal proclivities. Thomas John Ley MP was member of the Australian Nationalist Party, a conservative party which was one fore-runners of the Liberal Party. He was convicted of murder. This does not make all conservative politicians murderers.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 15 November 2015 10:51:52 AM
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Toni,

One kiddie fiddler doesn't make all Greens kiddie fiddlers etc., and a small group of terrorists doesn't make all Muslims terrorists as I'm sure you'll agree; I'm sure that you'll also agree that a few loonies with guns doesn't make all licenced Australian gun owners potential criminals,
I just wish that the Greens also possessed your insight.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 15 November 2015 11:47:28 AM
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Hi o sung wu, you say "As a firm believer in the rule of law, and urge for a moderate, lawful response to all those who break our laws, I'm beginning to think the time has come for the average citizen to have the means in order to protect themselves".

Well I would have agreed with you, until this last 20 years of immigration. The old punch up out the back of the pub has changed with this influx of garbage to a knife in the back, a drive by shooting, or a king hit.

While all this was happening, the old cop on the beat has disappeared. He's now a little girl, busy doing paper work for some obscure reason, back at the station. It says a great deal about how badly we have stuffed up, that it is now probably no longer safe for a cop to walk a beat in many areas of our cities.

Even the railway stations are no longer "manned". No longer able to "take care of myself", I felt threatened the last time I rode a train at night, by the yobs hanging around the station entrance. I will not do it again.

I have not even been close to a hand gun in 50 years, never felt the need, but am starting to feel a need today. They say you never loose the ability to use one accurately, I might even go to a club/commercial range, & find out.

This is one "moving with the times" I could do without.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 15 November 2015 11:52:59 AM
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"I spent over a decade in the Scouts and never got fiddled. Maybe I was just a particularly ugly child"

I was never in the Scouts. No access and no time - I was needed on the farm and did the work of men from an early age.

You obviously took from the Scouts and returned nothing, otherwise you would not be so uninformed and frivolous as to mislead readers about a movement that has so much to offer youth.

However I volunteered with the Scouting Movement during the membership of my own children. So I will point out what you were ignorant or deliberately silent about, which is Scouting's exemplary policy, rules and procedures affecting child protection and safety. Education departments and others have acknowledged and borrowed policy from Scouts Australia and for very good reason. See here for an example,

http://scoutsqld.com.au/about-us/child-protection-safety/

The requirement for a 'Blue Card' character check by police and others, for example, has been policy for decades.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 15 November 2015 12:01:02 PM
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