The problem is that Labor and Greens are extreme moral relativists and have no moral compass.

The leadership and factions of both are cynical and focussed on short term self interest and treat the members as useful idiots. They even refer to their members and the public as 'punters'.

o sung wu,

When police recommended to the Qld Labor government that it keep the successful VLAD 'anti bikie' legislation they police were told by their own minister to 'go suck' - they were told they could put in a submission like everyone else and the deep-sixing of the VLAD continued unabated.

Now that the leftist 'soft on offenders' moral relativists have taken over the reins of government in Queensland the ferals are taking the opportunity to do what they do best,

<Violent street brawl at Upper Coomera this evening: Police have taken one man into custody
TANYA WESTTHORP GOLD COAST BULLETIN NOVEMBER 16, 2015 8:09PM

POLICE have swooped on a northern Gold Coast supermarket after a large street brawl broke out between armed offenders this evening.

At least five people were involved in the violent brawl outside Coles at Upper Coomera at 6.45pm.

Police say there were reports someone pulled a knife while multiple people were fighting and making threats.

One man was taken into custody and it is understood police are now tracking another offender who fled the scene.

No one was injured but police swarmed the scene following a violent day of revenge attacks across the Coast following the stabbing murder of 16-year-old Michael Brack on the weekend.

This morning, up to 30 youths stormed a Molendinar house and trashed property in response to a teen claiming he was responsible for the death of Michael.

It is not known if this incident was another retaliation Attack.>
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This is the Police Minister,
<Miller headaches continue for Qld govt

QUEENSLAND'S police minister has been accused by her own party of misleading parliament to save her from opposition scrutiny.

LABOR MPs have referred Police Minister Jo-Ann Miller to the house's Ethics Committee over "prima facie" evidence she misled the Crime and Corruption Committee...>
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Enough said?

As with many laws the devil is in the detail, that is very much the case with these anti-consorting laws. Naturally I expect the rapid right who favor a police state to show their usual gung-ho attitude when it comes to giving police unfettered powers to control society. Even the article posted by Beach contradicts itself, despite its obvious bias, firstly linking the parliamentary debate with a local public shooting, giving no detail as to why Labor and The Greens oppose this legislation, but plenty of coverage to the emotive side of the argument with words like "organised crime has spiralled out of control", that is the opinion of the writer, not a fact, but such statements appeal easily to the fears that some already hold.

Despite the legislation not being passed, the writer reports of police success with existing laws in fighting crime, quote;

"Since Operation Apollo was set up in February 2010 to target organised crime, more than 100 people have been arrested, 220 charges have been laid and 60 firearms recovered."

This raises the question, why the need for new draconian laws, if police are having great success using existing legislation.

Despite the hysteria posted by Beach there is no reference to motorcycle gangs in the legislation. Its not surprising then that the first person arrested in NSW under the new act was not a bikie, but a 21-year-old man with an intellectual disability living in north-western NSW. He was initially charged while out shopping with friends and sentenced to nine months gaol for consorting with his friends (the conviction was later overturned). Ironically, he was initially locked in the same cell as his friends … whom he was not supposed to consort with!
40% of the police consorting warnings have been directed at aboriginal women for "consorting" with partners and family members.
The law should be about balance, not simply about eroding civil liberties whiles give police unfettered powers of arrest

Paul1405, "The law should be about balance, not simply about eroding civil liberties"

Pull the other one, it has bells on it.

The Greens are far more concerned about the rights of criminals than the law-abiding general public and victims of crime.

The Greens are all about protest, abusing and challenging authority and getting sensationalist headlines. If voting was voluntary the Greens would be absolutely stuffed.

Beach, given the type of extreme right totalitarian regime people such as yourself favor, there certainly would not be any room for protest parties, in fact there would be no room for protest, or any kind of progressive action. If your police force was not up to the job, I am sure that well armed citizens militia would be none too ready to take over the task.
There is nothing new in what people like yourself preach, its been around since Adolf was a boy. In Australia you would find many a kindred spirit in political parties such as One Nation and Australia First, if you haven't already done so. As for "If voting was voluntary the Greens would be absolutely stuffed." Naturally, under your favored regime there would be no need for voting, voluntary or compulsory. Given you radical views, you would make an excellent 'Minister for Public Order and Decency' under a a government led by your very own pin up gal Pauline Hanson.Then you could introduce all the draconian gun laws you like.

Hi there ONTHEBEACH...

Mate, I hear what you're saying and agree unconditionally ! I've always held a (private) belief, whenever the community, or our country as a whole, is confronted with a serious law and order issue; or engaged in a relatively contained war eg. Vietnam, Iraq; Afghanistan; etc., the real enemy is the politicians !

Think about it please. The coppers are trying hard to control the illegal activities of the outlaw motor cycle gangs. Instead, the Qld. government of the day are endeavoring to remove many of 'the teeth' that hitherto have made the Bikie legislation effective ? POLITICIANS!

All the military conflicts we've been involved where we've suffered many unnecessary losses, post WWll. It's because of politicians 'flip flopping' around with indecision, and Party initiated, political opposition. Instead of a strongly united, bi-partisan approach to the task.

Vietnam was a classic example. One side of Congress wanted to prosecute the war with all the military might at hand. The other side of Congress, rallied huge public support against the war, and the rest as they say, is history. The same existed here, with Liberal vs Labour ! And where were the soldiers left, between a rock and a very hard place, as well as being the proverbial meat in the sandwich ?

Out latest and most serious enemy ISIS, seemed to be better organised, and singularly, 'strongly task orientated' as evidenced by the apparent 'success' of the horror perpetrated against innocents in Paris over the weekend.

The French President has declared that a 'State of War' now exist between France and ISIS. If he's serious and I've no doubt he is, invade Syria, with the best troops you have, and completely extirpate every single ISIS operative found. Goodness knows, the French military are more than up to the task !