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Guns - Are Australians rearming themselves by stealth ?

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O sung wu,

Early on in my career I got to know the police armourers in Sydney as the .303 Lee-Enfield was the issue rifle in the police as well as in the army.
To get spare parts the police had to indent to their stores, who, via the Top, sent a request to the Master General of Ordnance for the required bits, the request then went down the line etc., and eventually the parts would be delivered to the police armoury.

So much simpler and cost effective for him to get on the 'phone to the boss armourer at the nearest Base Workshop (in Sydney, 2 Base Wksp. RAEME) and tell him what he wanted.
Young and very junior armourer who often goes to town is the courier; no paper work etc.
It was a two way street, of course but within the limits of being lawfully sensible.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 21 November 2015 1:55:04 PM
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Now, now. Beach, slow down for a moment, that last spray can't be good for the palpitations, yours, not mine.

On the one hand we have the NSW police, detectives from the Firearms Squad and officers from the Tactical Operations Unit, who have examined this weapon first hand and in detail and have concluded it to be a genuine Thompson branded fully-automatic submachine gun. Then on the other hand we have the anonymous OLO poster and all round X-spurt onthebeach, who has not been within a bulls roar of the said weapon, nah, he's not been within a 1000Km of the gun, yet he has concluded from I don't know what, that the thing is a replica.
Beach, could the explanation be that all these coppers are Fabians?

To answer your questions. "You (Paul1405) denied that any Labor politician was a Fabian, or that Fabianism even existed." No, what I don't do is go over the top (like you) about the Fabian Society and its members, for all you know, I could be a member myself.

Weren't you (Paul1405) one of the prolific posters who was always going on about politics. Unless I'm on the wrong forum. the 'Macrame for Beginners' Forum I thought this forum was about politics.

Prolific, your not doing too bad yourself, having clocked up 5,000 posts in 3 years, compared to you I'm only a casual poster clocking up about 4,000 in 5 years. LOL
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 November 2015 3:32:18 PM
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Paul believes the ABC news!!

What and where is the clip?
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 21 November 2015 4:35:59 PM
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Paul1405, "detectives from the Firearms Squad and officers from the Tactical Operations Unit, who have examined this weapon first hand and in detail and have concluded it to be a genuine Thompson branded fully-automatic submachine gun"

'Genuine' you say? Bollocks. 'Automatic'? More bollocks. It is a replica with 'Thompson' on it, as a copy-gun would have.

So provide your evidence of authenticity from a credible source. Not just some reporter saying it has the name on it and without the serial number and other information that would be displayed on the genuine article.

Or lets see the police armourer taking his life in his own hands and firing the thing. LOL

You may find that the reports are that the replica has 'Thompson' marked on it, which is not unusual for a replica.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 21 November 2015 5:14:06 PM
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Hi IS MISE...

Ah mate the old days were far simpler, and more effective in every way. Full Co-Op between the coppers and the Military made far more sense, and when you think of it both organisations had a similar charter, and essentially run on very similar lines.

When I did my three years penance at the Police Academy as an Instructor, ex military (Army, Navy & Air Force) recruits were far more amenable and acquiescent towards formal training. Generally by their attitude, personal presentation and discipline, in fact it made it so much easier to educate them specifically, than many of the people straight out of University.

Furthermore they knew how to play the game, keep their ears and eyes open and their mouths shut, during the formal component of their training, rather than trying to be an academic 'smart arse' like a few of the Uni graduates tended to be ? Moreover, they generally made pretty good street coppers as well, most of them. Not in any way denigrating or maligning the efforts of the Uni people, many performed admirable, but generally speaking the ex military folk made pretty good coppers, despite any apparent lack of formal tertiary education.

Though in promotion terms, it was generally accepted that the more educated people were those who managed to circumvent that difficult impediment or hurdle, from Sergeant to Inspector, who were 'fast tracked' up the rank structure. Personally, I managed sergeant, and sergeant is where I remained ! And to be quite truthful, I was reasonably content, retiring after a bit over 32 years of service.
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 21 November 2015 5:24:30 PM
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Beach, still claiming to be a X-spurt from your vantage point a 1000km away.

As you would say "pull the other leg its got bells on it!"

Oh Is Mise if its not in a Murdoch fish wrapper then its not to be believed. The same story was in the SMH and Limited News and a host of other publications.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 November 2015 5:44:07 PM
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