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Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 13 November 2015 11:56:26 AM
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Hi there ONTHEBEACH...
Gulp !...Mate, you've completely left me behind with your explanation of the possible chemical constituents these Year12 hoodlums were using for their water pistols. Do you think these 'knuckle heads' understood precisely what chemical they were using, if not sulphuric acid ? Furthermore do you think they understood the inherent risks associated with using such a dangerous chemical ? If so, I wonder how and why such potentially harmful material, was generally made available in an ordinary High School Laboratory ? I heard my mate wanted to prefer charges however the Headmaster was of the opinion it best be left with the School to handle the matter in house. Nevertheless a brief was prepared and I'm not sure what the outcome was ? It must be said OTB police are cautious whenever criminal charges are instituted against school kids, as DPP more often than not, prefer to handle the matter through Diversionary Conferencing route. I suppose stupidity could always be mounted as an adequate defence to criminal capacity, whenever dealing with youths of this lot's calibre? I must say your knowledge of chemistry is exceptional. While mine is limited to the 1955 NSW Intermediate Certificate. Therefore a career in 'rocket science' is probably not exactly my forte ? On a more serious note, the innocuous plastic water pistol, isn't quite so innocent as one might consider. Therefore there's a potential to 'load it up' with all manner of sinister fluids, which are only limited to availability, and to the breadth of one's imagination ! Emmmm ? Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 13 November 2015 5:06:46 PM
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o sung wu,
It is said that all things come out in the wash. Mind you, there are some who would not come clean under a fire hose. The mystery is why 'Progressive' leftists support scrotes like the violent, drug-dealing criminal outlaw motorcycle gangs and throw open the immigration doors to more of the same and instead, sledge our freedom of speech, democratic institutions, justice system, police and reputable law-abiding citizens. In Queensland, the new Labor government immediately neutered the VLAD law and the effective police strategies that were driving criminal gangs out of business and out of the State. Bikies with such contempt for police that they surrounded a police station and rioted in a family restaurant were given slaps on the wrist. Very soon after, we are advised that one of the participants in the public affray and violence stands accused of running his long term girlfriend off a street in suburbia and beating her to death. But did Labor Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk and her cabinet of senior womyn as Police Minister, A-G and so on apologise and relent on deep-sixing the only known effective police strategy against the gangs? Did they finally listen to public and business poleas to keep the VLAD in place? The answer is hell no, they just labelled the young woman's death as 'domestic violence' and beat up a DV program instead. Now, what would any of the ex- and present police on this forum surmise could be the motivation of Labor and Greens shielding drug-dealing thugs in Queensland and deep-sixing of effective legislation that survived a High Court challenge? Is it just political grandstanding, or lack of political will, or do the millions being made daily from drugs talk somewhere? What about other States? Victoria for example, <The brutal truth: there is no outlaw code; bikie gangs are all for money, power and fear> http://tinyurl.com/nbpbads Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 13 November 2015 7:32:56 PM
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Funny that the water pistol which has such a potential for inflicting serious injury, lingering death and sudden death is completely unrestricted, any child can buy one.
In contrast all air soft pistols are classed as lethal weapons yet they can be fired at TV screens with no chance of ever damaging the screen or anything else. http://www.airsoftcouncil.com.au/index.php/about-airsoft-81/are-they-real-guns#.VkW-PdIrJki Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 13 November 2015 8:41:00 PM
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Is Mise a tree branch in the wrong hands could be a lethal weapon. unlike guns tree branches are not designed to kill people.
Glad to hear you don't just kill our little friendly woodland creatures you boil them up in the pot as well. How do you think Walter 'Wacko' Palmer cooked up poor Cecil the lion? French provincial style with a cheeky bearnaise sauce on the side. And don't tell me you don't eat lion because it gives you indigestion. Interesting,how much would a "pensioner" spend out of his meager pension on a gun to shoot game at a few cents a kilo? A 1000 bucks! Beach is once again off in Lalaland, aka Queensland, whipping his favorite hobby horse, that Bolshy Labor government up there. Look out Beach, some crazed hunter might come alone and shoot that hobby horse from under you. A story of your typical responsible hunters! No its not in America, no it didn't happen last century, It happened now, right here in NSW. 'Rambo' hunters wreck bush couple's peaceful paradise but NSW police do nothing! "pictures caught on CCTV are emailed to the Whitehead's mobile phone, and show slaughtered wombats and wallabies. Fences smashed by trucks." "It is shattering. We have had three years of hell," Ms Whitehead said" Is Mise, is that you in the back of the ute? http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/forest-cameras-catch-illegal-hunters-but-nsw-police-no-help-say-bush-couple-20151002-gk0ahb.html Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 14 November 2015 6:09:03 AM
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Paul,
My flintlock replica North West trade gun cost me nought, thirty years ago I swapped an antique double barrel percussion shotgun for it and that had been given to me back in the days when such guns were worthless. I know quite a few pensioners who are glad of a rabbit when I shoot more than I need. Local deer hunters also think of our pensioners and spread the venison around. Do you have a problem with the eradication of rabbits or the shooting of deer? Rabbits are of no use to pensioners or anyone else when they've been poisoned and died a lingering death as the Greens advocate. Why aren't the Greens trying to ban water pistols, unlike tree branches they are designed to discharge a hurtful irritant liquid, which is illegal under our laws. How many people were at that famous public meeting, you know the one that you said that the shooters gatecrashed. Your unconcious humour is far better than your written attempts. Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 14 November 2015 7:35:25 AM
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It is far more likely that those boys of the old coppers tales were in fact using something far more sinister chemical, namely Hydroxyl Acid, or Dihydrogen Monoxide. DHMO is a chemical not easily understood by police and journalists, which is not surprising since government has embargos on release of Safety Data Sheets [SDS]). Hence the (convenient) myth of 'sulphuric acid' in pistols instead.
[quote]<Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.
Dihydrogen monoxide:
- is also known as hydroxl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
- contributes to the "greenhouse effect";
- may cause severe burns;
- contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape;
- accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals;
- may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes; and,
- has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions!
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Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
- as an industrial solvent and coolant;
- in nuclear power plants;
- in the production of styrofoam;
- as a fire retardant;
- in many forms of cruel animal research;
- in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical;
- as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products;
Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme.>
Sign the Greens' Petition, '#ban Hydroxyl Acid' and #Occupythelocalreservoir. If only one child is saved etc.
BTT