I love the euphemisms used by the gun happy brigade, sport for killing is one of their favorites, game for defenseless animals, another, hunting for game in rich well fed western socialites went out with Danial Boone! Is Mise thanks for the update on those high powered destructive guns already in the community, we don't need another one.

Is Mise you might like this one, I got it from David Shoebridge's web site.

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE!..PEOPLE WITH GUNS KILL PEOPLE!

Paul,

As usual you don't address the points raised and I note too, as usual, the Greens use the personal tragedy of a person for their own ends.
What, pray, did the shooting of the lady's husband have to do with the Adler shotgun?

Bye the way, what are the Greens doing about the cheap high powered laser pointers that have already partly (and permanently) damaged one teenager's sight and have the potential to blind?

What if these fall into criminal hands?

I look forward to Sandalplank's pronouncements on this issue.

O sung wu,

I should have noted earlier that "Guns - Are Australians rearming themselves by stealth ?" is misleading because Australians are buying legal arms having already satisfied the legal requirements to do so, so there is no stealth.

The NSW Watermelon Greens have a track record for half-truths, complete fabrications and mischief-making.

Now for some facts, courtesy of The Hon. Troy Wayne GRANT, MP, Dubbo Electorate, who knows what he is talking about,

Grant: "The NSW Government has made it clear...that our problems in relation to crime is not registered firearms. It is illegal firearms, illegal guns issue that we face in NSW. Greater than 97% of firearms incidence reported in NSW relate to unregistered, or unbranded, or unmarked firearms.

So those people out there, the opportunists, like David Shoebridge from the Greens today, will exaggerate the narrative. Ah, I think he's quoted something like there is 800,000 people in NSW that will have access to these weapons, trying to make a story that is simply untrue. There are not many people that have a licence category that these firearms may go into. That's just an absolute nonsense figure. I'd like him to get him to be honest with the community and tell us where the source of his information is coming from".

So scare tactics by those in this space is very unhelpful. We are working tirelessly across the country to make sure we're targeting where the problem is, and that is illegal guns, and also making sure that the integrity of our NFA remains solid and serves us well into the future.!"
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Reporter: "(something about the Adler five rounds)...that's allowed in Australia already, do you, do you think there does need to be a review on that because I know the Greens have said what you've just explained, but there are victims that have had relatives die, die from a shooting, and they're even saying they are concerned about that gun being in Australia. What do you say to those victims that are concerned."

Grant: "Victims of firearms crime, as I've just outlined, are victims of illegal guns, of unregistered guns, not ones that you buy from firearms dealers. That is where we need to focus our energies. Absolutely we need to ensure our regime and our national firearms partnership remains strong, and has integrity, and we'll continue to do that, but as Justice Keenan, as Minister Keenan said...that our law enforcement bodies have all the support they need, to track down those illegal guns that are providing the safety risk to our community, not the ones you buy over a counter."

Also worth repeating, that ATM, 'gun control' - the goal of which is confiscations and bans affecting law-abiding licensed citizens and does NOT affect criminals, is yet another of the political diversions (along with gay marriage and republic) of the Greens protest party and other flakey types. But most regrettably including a wealthy, secret squirrel overseas billionaire who is alleged to provide seed money and support to serial leftist and anarchist activists to carry out demonstrations in the US and western democracies. Figure that one out.

Paul and all your mates,

You might like to look at this; I know that it contains facts and facts
are uncomfortable and not very Green, but all the same:

"

What is a ‘lever action’ firearm?

A lever action firearm uses a lever located around the trigger guard area of a firearm to load cartridges into the chamber of the barrel. Each actioning of the lever requires the operator’s finger to be removed from the trigger.

Is lever action technology new?

No. Lever action technology was invented in the 1860s, making it over 150 years old.

Is this type of firearm new to Australia?

No. Lever action shotguns have been available in Australia since 1887
including models with more than 7 round capacity. In 1996, lever action firearms were classified as ‘Category A’ and there have been no safety issues with them.

What makes the Adler different to the lever action shotguns already in Australia?

The only differences are cosmetic. The Adler simply has a more modern and ergonomic design relative to other models of lever action shotgun and a lighter weight alloy receiver.

Does the Adler have any new technology?

Firearms experts from the Australian Federal Government have confirmed
there is no new technology in the firearm and that it operates in the same manner and same speed as all other lever action shotguns.

Is the Adler a ‘rapid fire’ gun?

The Commonwealth Attorney-General’s Department have stated that the
term ‘rapid fire’ is “problematic as there is no technical definition for this term” and suggest that firearms should be classified based on whether they are semi-automatic or fully automatic.

Is the Adler semi-automatic or fully automatic?
No."
http://ssaa.org.au/assets/news-resources/politics/Adler-A110-lever-action-shotgun-fact-sheet.pdf

Suse,

"Lol Is Mise, where did you hear that domestic violence happens less about in gun owning families? I very much doubt that is true..."

If it were not true then there would be far less Licenced Firearms Owners and the Greens would be trumpeting the fact as would the media in general.
I know that these are negative proofs but... and from where did you get your assertion?
Licenced firearm owners are of good character and they have the Police Commissioner's stated approval to prove it and one of the things that he must take into consideration is domestic violence; any DV and no licence..