I have only just come across this thread - and what do I find? Another war between People Against Live Exports and I/F, using the pseudonym Antje Struthman and PF (and one or two others) and the dreaded exchange of various emails again. I am a bit concerned that, having read some other written work of Antje Struthman's, that the written style here where she writes representing People Against Live Exports is markedly different; are we sure we have the same/right person? And again, I have to say that I don't think a thread like this is the place for advertising an organization - was it Yabby who said that the advertising boards are for that? I think all the stuff about legal action, and like threats are best kept for personal communications too. Robert, and GrahamY, thank you for your moderate input and helpful advice.
Nicky

Antje, no-one pays to use the forum. The only people who pay to use this site are our partners like Melbourne Uni, LGAQ, Oxfam etc. and they get ownership rights as members. You can see them on the drop-down list on the home page of OLO.

No-one is stopping you posting under your own name. Just register under a new email address as Antje Struthmann, or whatever you choose, and I'll suspend the PALE one.

Graham

Nobody mentioned money. Athough I have in the past said I think everybody should pay something. I asked you nicely if I had to change every single computer and or thread. I told you what happend before. It seems I am not going to get an answer so I wont bother to ask again.
I am certainly not touching anything again until I find out.

Thank you for the offer but thats what you said the last time.
Please just leave it. I certainly dont want to go through what others already have experienced.
Thank You Anyway Graham
Antje

Nicky as you said you have just come onto this thread.

So if its ok with you I will ask Graham a question about technical
issues. I dont see any reason for you to invlove yourself in my questions or for that matter anything else. You dont know the background.

Your clearly just targetting me because you think I am supportive of pale people.

If you are free to come on this forum and promote your ideas towards Animal Welfare I am just as free.

I know its hard 'Nicky' to except but others dont have to ask your consent to talk about things they want to do like you do. Not on this forum anyway.

As far as IDs I would be the only person on this forum to be in no doubt as to who you really are ' Nicky'

At least I use my real name.

I think if you have something to say on a public forum that you want people to consider you ow it to people to be upfront as to who you are.
Antje Struthmann.

"I think if you have something to say on a public forum that you want people to consider you ow it to people to be upfront as to who you are."

Nope Antje, you have it all wrong. Who anyone is does not matter an
iota.

What matters is intelligence. Either you have the ability to make
sound points, that stand up to reasoned arguments, or you don't.
We are all free to discuss those points, who is who does not
matter at all. What matters is the strength of your arguments,
based on your reasoning ability.

So forget all the people stuff, the bitchy stuff, the who stuff.
Focus on the points that you argue, all the rest simply does not
matter, thats just female bitchyness IMHO...

Well Yabby
You are entiled to your opinion and I am entiled to mine. You for example come on here and say some totally outragous things- Such as your recent post on the pig thread. Your now telling the public that no pulbic funds go into MLA, or livecourpe. It doesnt matter to you because you also post in a bodgey name.
Your incorrect about public funds being used in the industry yabby. Anyway I guess that not really for this thread so I will leave it. As for your other comment yup I agree but when somebody atacks me for no reason I tend to defend myself.
A pretty normal response Yabby. We all react the way in which we are approached. Also just quickly I agree with you about all NFP organisations being accountable publicly.
Nothing would make me happier.
Goodnight All.

"Your now telling the public that no pulbic funds go into MLA, or livecourpe. It doesnt matter to you because you also post in a bodgey name."

Nope Antje, thats not what I said, reread my post and do not
distort what I said. What I said was that I had examined the
last MLA budget and that public funds were provided for r&d
research, not for marketing or other efforts. That is correct.

You are free to obtain a copy of the MLA budget from MLA, which
confirms my point. Who I am is not an issue, my point of reason
is what the argument is all about. Show me where my point of
reason is wrong, based on the MLA budget. I could be the pope's
illegitimate child, why should anyone care? The arguments are not
about people, but about points of reason.