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Unions A difference Exists

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Bobbicee

I am delighted to hear of somebody interested to help the elderly. The Elderly, aboriginal people and of course Animal Welfare are the closest to my heart.I know this is off post but please consider this. I worked on it for a long time but I will try to shorten it. Each Elderly person or persons on disabilty P-is funded by the federal Government through the tax payers to the turn of almost thirty dollars per day.

All people receiving in home care also must put in around $40 to $50- thats makes it around $280.00 per week and about eleven hundred dollars per month.
Not a fortune but enough to buy two hours a day in their own home care instead of the three hours to five tops per week they get now.

The federal Government send the funds to the state Government who create jobs for the boys then hand out in home care packages nornalyy to Church bassed organisations who in return again create jobs for the boys.

Instead of that we could create some real jobs by being given a choice how we wish our parents too be cared for or how we wish our services to be provided.

IE I am eighty years and decide I want Dial an angle to provide me with fourteen hours etc per week.- I tell the Federal Government to sent my funds to them.
I am 90 years and decide i want someone to live in. I give free accom and tell the federal gov to send my funds to my house keeper carer etc.
Results more elderly stay at home and less need for more homes for the elderly to be built. What do you think
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:10:34 PM
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PALE

I feel that all seniors should remain in their homes unless they have advanced Alzheimers or are totally incapacitated. And, I agree they need a minimum of 2 hours per day, preferably 3-4. However, working with the elderly who have been subjected to elder abuse by their children, I feel the senior should make the choices, and use the Public Trustee and Adult Guardian to clarify every eventuality.

Queensland actually has some good programs for seniors. Some of my clients get up to 4 hours assistance per day. There's also Home Assist Secure which offers handyman work free aside from wholesale cost of products or appliance (ie grab bars, security locks). And Home Care provides house cleaning, clothes washing, and driving senior to bank, shopping, etc. And Senior Shopper gets appliances, vehicles, etc at the best cost.

I intend to increase my assistance to seniors and have contacted several agencies where I could offer supplementary visits to seniors in their homes.
Posted by Bobbicee, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:21:12 AM
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Let me tell you about trade unions at work, from this weeks work diary.
Construction workers work ,yes they do you know!, in the rain ,heat, or extreme cold.
They work longer hours each year, on this railway project they travel nearly 2 hours a day and work 10 or even more.
Such jobs get behind and the boss often with hat in hand asks that rostered days of are worked to make up for lost time.
Camped a very long way from home and family crews more often than not say ok.
It is meant to be taken so worn out workers get a rest, but those worn out workers understand #banking# a few rostered days of will keep them at home with the family for a bit longer on such weekends as this long one.
Some even promise the kids they see sometimes just one day a fortnight they will spend a week together later in the year.
So the boss asks for flexibility, that work continues and rdo days are banked.
Then very worn out men are told minutes before knockoff that it has been decided ALL RDO,S must be taken now! right now while it is raining!unplanned and unwanted once more workers give the boss takes.
But the fixed ROD must be worked?
No will you.
No sorry about your plans we need once more to use your rdo,s for our benefit.
So what was the outcome? pales dreadful union official busting doors?
No pain no blood just yes Belly when you put it that way it was not well done or planed we understand and agree it stays unchanged.
Far different from the anti union drivel we see here.
BD I am quite able to stand alone on any issue and to pick my own fights while I share your views about that idiot who degrades unions he is no reason to drop a basic of good unionism, no need exists to get into the gutter with grubs.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 8 June 2007 5:06:23 AM
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I hope it continues to rain! in that post about timber workers and Anzac day pale let loose on me a few facts are called for.
No radical union official putting the boot into Mr nice boss, Anzac day is a public holiday.
It is also for many like it or not close to our national day, who truly is not awestruck by the bravery of those who fought for us?
Pay rates are paid at one public holiday and time and one half for time worked up to the normal 8 hours.
Mostly only industry's that must continue work do so on this day.
Here the wish to continue the 4 10 hours days worked saw work go on so the next weekday would still be a day of.
Workers dare not even if given a choice say we do not want to work.
The boss is unlikely to find a friend within 200 klm of his home and much unliked.
pale can you understand a chance exists that some bosses are like this?
Can you justify your anti union dribble by saying any conflict is always the unionists fault?
Can you understand your views are totally out of touch with the real world?
For whatever reasons Australians went to war, and some reasons are wrong, I remain forever proud of them all, Anzac day reminds me we should all be.
Trade unionists are Australians too they vote for every party we have they fight our wars and they live and die as Australians new and old to call them names because they are unionists is a sad old shameful thing to do after all who questions the bosses unions?
And pale those 4 10 hour days? should be 38 hours in a week workchoices will if left alone see 50 normal hours or more in such jobs fair go mate! it still rings true for me.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 8 June 2007 5:31:22 AM
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Belly
Good God. I guess I am out of touch. Do you mean to tell me that small biz is expected to pick up Anzac Day by Law?
Lets see now.

We are going to show our respect[ as we should] to those fallen soldiers and brave heros we have left who saved us. BUT we are not going under our own steam?

We are not giving up one or two hours under our own sacrifise to pay that respect?

You expect ME a small town saw mill guy to pay for you' to show YOUR respect.

Thats certainly lacking in priniciple.

I am sure you cant see that Belly.

What a low down double standard attitude.

On TOP of that there is no law to make sure the disrectful BLUGERS who make a mockery of our fallen even GO?? Ok So long as ALLstaff being paid spend the rest of the day after the sercive painting war widows homes?
Do you agree?
Doing! someting for these people! no day at the pub. Done deal. Off from the service to WORK to show respect to the fallens familys!! yes

All the time whil I the small town Saw mill guy PAYS for them to P off fishing or whatever.

Rain Hail Cold storm or Shine whats your point re working?

If you work for me I cant pickthe weather.

I cant help it if its raining on your day off. Inder the condition of Australias lack of water I would suggest you teach your kids to rejoice the rain!

Anyway you CANT answer the question.

Why cant people CHOOSE if they want to be a member OR NOT?

As I said Your like PRO chioce. I pity the saw mill bloke.

I really do. God help this country if labour get back in.

They ran us HUGE international bills.

Or dont you remember.

They couldnt balance a household let alone this country.

Russ not labour. He a rich wifes man. Look at his own mess.
Your kidding!
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Friday, 8 June 2007 6:30:24 PM
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I move that Boaz and PALE get exported live and together in the same cage to that mythical country that is all milk and honey and has never needed a labour movement of any substance to make it such a wonderful place to live.
Posted by STAUNCH, Friday, 8 June 2007 8:02:36 PM
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