My point. Exactly.

>>Yes, Pericles, the religious divisions in Ireland are much more subtle than a simple Catholic versus Protestant pallet, all of ROYGBIV are there.<<

Very similar to the religious divisions within Islam, I would imagine, between Sunni, Salafi, Wahabi, Shi'ite, Ahmadiyya, Quadiani, Sufi, Hanafi, Shafi, Ismaili and all the rest. Conflict over religious differences, all about whose particular God is right, and whose is wrong.

What we really need here in Australia, according to the bulk of the white-bread "Aussies" on this thread, is to create our own personal religious war, between citizens of the same country, who just happen to have different religious beliefs.

Oh look, here's one...

>>...it's time to rid the WOLD of these grubs forever and every nation should get involved to get the job done. Enough talk, enough delay we must act now. Then, once these grubs are removed we must then ban this hatful crap world wide. We must unite and say, no more!<<

He is talking about all Muslims, Constance. And his is the attitude you are applauding. I'm sure they make you proud to be Australian.

Pericles,

"Very similar to the religious divisions within Islam, I would imagine, between Sunni, Salafi, Wahabi, Shi'ite, Ahmadiyya, Quadiani, Sufi, Hanafi, Shafi, Ismaili and all the rest. Conflict over religious differences, all about whose particular God is right, and whose is wrong."

Not at all similar, Cyclops, the divisions in Ireland are not about whose God is right, they all worship the same God and the divisions are all man made, political.

As I pointed out the heroes and founding fathers of Irish Republicanism were Protestants, Protestants moreover who were appalled at the treatment of the Catholic Irish by the Government in Westminster.

All that the Irish have ever wanted was to govern their own country and when they had achieved this by their actions under the democratic Westminster system, the British system, they were thwarted by the British Government pandering to a minority of Orange hued Irishmen in the un-democraticly constituted 2/3 rds of Ulster, that the British call Northern Ireland (strangely enough the most northern part of Ireland is not in so-called "Northern Ireland").

So there is no comparison, except that IS hates democracy and Britain perverts it when it suits.

It is not just a problem of a few criminals and some casual bureaucrats. Toxic elements of a backward culture have been introduced including favouritism and political corruption.

That must give rise to questions about serious deficiencies in the policy and administration of immigration, and multiculturalism policy. The apparently unforeseen negative consequences are in abundant evidence and the contributing causes are widespread and systemic. What went wrong that these critical risks and catastrophic consequences were not recognised in the first place, and evidence of problems in immigration and multicultural policy has been plastered over many times before?

Quoted earlier,

<Author Yasmin Alibhai-Brown speaks out
...we Asians [referring one assumes to Pakistanis in this case] must recognise there is something rotten in our cultures. Too many of our men have a problem with females. And sex. We don’t talk about such things. Our languages don’t even have words for sexual parts or acts. I want to break this awful conspiracy of silence.

The sex gang victims were seen as “prostitutes” because they were out, probably mouthy and not covered up.

The men who destroyed their lives were sadists but their crimes came from a set of attitudes towards white society shared by parents, priests, elders and religious teachers.

What we need is Asian women in Rotherham, and Rochdale, Oxford and Luton, to march with white mums and shout: “These are our daughters.” Human rights are for all, black, brown and white".>

I'd suggest they are very similar, Is Mise.

>>Not at all similar, Cyclops, the divisions in Ireland are not about whose God is right, they all worship the same God and the divisions are all man made, political.<<

All variants of Muslim worship "the same God" too, you know. Amazingly enough, it appears to be the same one that Christians (of all persuasions) recognize.

But I have to agree with your main point, which is that all religious divisions are essentially political in nature. I don't see that as necessarily a good thing, though.

In 1947, India was divided into India and Pakistan - much as Northern Ireland was earlier separated out of Ireland. While there was enormous (religiously inspired) bloodshed during the partition itself, at least the end result created a recognizable boundary between the two. Who is to say that even more people would have died, if the population had remained within the same borders. Or that the Irish people would not have continued their own religious war, but in closer proximity to each other, if the six counties had not been carved out.

Pericles,I must take exception to your statement, "All variants of Muslim worship "the same God" too, you know. Amazingly enough, it appears to be the same one that Christians (of all persuasions) recognize." NOT SO!
The identity of "God" or "gods" is recognized by their character, actions and wisdom attributed to them. The Koran conflicts greatly with the New Testament view of the character, actions and wisdom held by Christians of God. i.e. Jesus, "care for your enemy and pray for your enemy" Koran Allah will assist you to destroy your enemy.

Pericles,

"Or that the Irish people would not have continued their own religious war, but in closer proximity to each other, if the six counties had not been carved out."

They didn't have a religious war, and the proof is in the pudding.
Since Northern Ireland has had a democratically elected Parliament (post the Accord) religious motivated violence, that is the violence instigated by the Loyalists has all but ceased as has political violence by Nationalists.

It's good that Ireland's English problem has come up though as Northern Ireland was/is the perfect example of the failure of multiculturalism in the modern world.