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Rotherham reveals the price we pay for multiculturalism

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Dear Kactuz,

ISIS has been designated as a foreign terrorist
organisation in the United States, the UK, Australia,
Canada, Indonesia and Saudi Arabia, to name just a
few and it has been described by the United Nations as
well as Western and Middle Eastern media as a terrorist
group and as a fundamentalist and extremist organisation.
ISIS is the successor of Al-Qaeda. To blame all Muslims
for this terrorist, extremist organisation is not
something that I am willing to do. Instead of telling me
to "think," may I politely suggest you do precisely that
instead of continue to argue with sweeping statements
and unreasonable assertions in lumping all Muslims into
the same group as these extremists.

Dear Rehctub,

I can understand you finding it distressing that there are
a small minority who want to get involved in overseas
wars - however, there will always be mercenaries, and others,
who will get involved in overseas conflicts - be it in
Israel, Ireland, Palestine, or elsewhere. That doesn't mean
that we have to blame others living peacefully in this
country for the actions of a minority.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 13 September 2014 2:44:22 PM
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cont'd ...

Dear Rehctub,

According to an article in The Age, Saturdy, Sept. 13
2014 -

There are about 2500 foreign citizens from more than 60
countries enlisted in the Israeli Defence Force, of which
it is believed 100 are Australians.

It is believed 60 Australians are fighting with ISIS,
which is classified in Australia as a terrorist organisation.

The Age article points out that Australians have a history
of taking up arms abroad. In the 1930s, Spanish Australians
fought on both sides of the Spanish Civil War and, in the 1990s,
Australians fought for Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Albania,
Slovenia, and Macedonia in the Yugoslav wars.

Jewish Australians have fought in all of Israel's wars from
1948 onwards.

You need not concern yourself however, dear Rehctub,
as it looks like the government is to toughen laws
preventing Australians fighting in Syria and Iraq from
returning home. Proposed counter-terrorism legislation
would make it easier to identify and charge and prosecute
people who have engaged in terrorist activities overseas
and would also make it an offence to travel without a
valid reason to an area designated by intelligence agencies.

This would include the 60 Australians who are fighting with
ISIS, which is classified in Australia as a terrorist
organisation.

I trust that this will re-assure you just a little.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 13 September 2014 3:26:03 PM
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The following link should be read by
those blaming multiculturalism for
the problems in Rotherham. It's taken from
The Age, Saturday, 13th Sept. 2014:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/child-sex-abuse-within-families-rampant-20140912-10fxao.html
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 13 September 2014 3:50:00 PM
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Foxy,

It takes enormous gall and insensitivity to the victims to try to slide the blame onto all men as you seek to do. I really hope you are getting paid for the hundreds of hours you spend at the keyboard denying the conclusions of independent reports. Here, read it for yourself and see if you come back with the same silly retorts,

Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation in Rotherham (1997 – 2013)
http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham

You are completely insensitive, callous, to the truly dreadful suffering of those girls (and boys - in view of the sexual perversions of the particular culture introduced to the UK). 100 babies taken from their young mothers and who knows how many miscarriages and abortions? What about the fate of those infants?

The recent statements of senior authorities say that the horrendous practices continue. Not something of concern to you though. You deny factual reports and victim statements. You are too busy trying to slide the blame onto the general population, to blame the victims and their families, onto their fathers too, obviously. Disgusting.

See here,
onthebeach, Saturday, 13 September 2014 1:17:31 PM
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 13 September 2014 10:43:13 PM
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Foxy,
We know whose side you're on because you keep changing the subject.
By those figures there a about 3,500 suspected cases in a population of 4.5 million Victorians, Rotherham has a population of 250,000 and the report gives a conservative estimate of 1400 victims.
Not the same thing at all, we're not even talking about the same type of offences, the Pakistani men in Rotherham were running prostitution rings for the entertainment of men in their own community, this article on Victoria has nothing to do with the subject at hand save for an oblique reference to "arranged marriages" ie West Asians and Middle Easterners.
Child sex abuse is endemic in the countries from which most of our non European immigrants are drawn, what's the bet that the sudden up tick in allegations in Victoria is connected to the demographic shift toward a population which better reflects Third World values?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 13 September 2014 11:03:01 PM
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Personal attacks on posters are an
emotional way of arguing - not a mature
intelligent one. When a link is given to
simply broaden the discussion it is
intended to do just that. It in no way
necessarily reflects what the poster's personal
feelings on teh subject may or may not be.
But is meant to add another perspective to the
discussion. Any one who then makes assumptions
and continues to insult the poster because of
a given link - is simply showing their own bias and
prejudices. It would serve the discussion much better
if the views in the link were attacked - and not the
poster who simply provided the link.

Pathetic!
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 September 2014 11:15:12 AM
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