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Rotherham reveals the price we pay for multiculturalism

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Suse,

I think you said that you'd been a midwife; did you never see the consequences of FGM on some so mutilated, especially when giving birth?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 29 August 2014 2:37:16 PM
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I agree 100% with the posters on this subject. Well 95% but it is an open discussion. Our politicians are overdoing the 'multi cultural' good guy act. Maybe acting partly on doing their Christian deed, but indeed it does appear to be more a fear of themselves being seen to be racist.
The( majority) of these immigrants come defining themselves by their religion, therefore there can be no calling racism. Unfortunately, seemingly unbeknown to our fearless leaders, these religious extremists loathe and murder Christians, regardless of colour.
Its sad too, the fact that these males, even first generation Australians, still run in gangs terrorizing abusing raping and often killing innocents, committing the exact barbaric crimes we were lead to believe they fled here to escape.
These crimes are committed fearlessly with no regard for human life other than those of their own following.
And yes there are people of all religions who rape women and kids and commit terrible crimes. Regardless of race or religion. Despite the fact that in certain faiths these are considered a right, passed down through the generations, and passed on again. These crimes should not be over looked, sugar coated whatever, punishment to fit the severity of the crime.
As in Rotherham the guilt does lie, not only on those life- destroying child abusers, but certainly a number of those entrusted by Govt. council and community. The people with the experience, knowledge and determination (surely) now given the position and power to protect and save the young and vulnerable. Race religion or creed, all children should be allowed to grow up never having to experience abuse, molestation, mutilation. Those neglecting to do their job for whatever reason, whether there is solid evidence or not, if they dont step down from guilt should be stood down. Maybe even spend some quality time with the kids in the slums, wherever, to get a real life look at the purpose of his employment. Like any employee, dont put your hand out if you dont do your job. Ah Politicians again lol
Posted by jodelie, Friday, 29 August 2014 2:44:08 PM
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Unfortunately, there are rapists and paedophiles in all countries and amongst all races.
Suseonlone,
Of course that makes it right & proper to do nothing. Good people sit back & relax you're excused from taking action because the Suseonline's of Australia say so.
Posted by individual, Friday, 29 August 2014 3:02:22 PM
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Parliamentarians , a large number of whom, jet-set regularly to countries all over the world. Not entirely sure of the purpose, or the necessity of private jets and an entourage, I believe even family members on occasion. These important visits seem to be generally to western countries. To assist the Government in getting a better understanding of building multiculturalism back here in Oz, perhaps regular visits with family and entourage, to each of the main origins of our immigrants. Of course it would be quite difficult but a very learning experience.
As so many people not only of differing races but very differing religious followings and cultures enter Australia, they must have to go through an extremely lengthy process. Trying to learn a whole new culture and of course be willing to make some necessary cultural adjustments.
It would only be fair for our parliamentarians to show their fellow human beings just across the sea a shared willingness to welcome and adhere to their very valued beliefs and cultures. Spending this quality time would be very valuable although demanding of the utmost cooperation and respect. Learning of what are considered crimes and what are still not. Punishments I believe are severe and hold no leniency or compassion. In particular any ladies to partake in this humanitarian mission will be in for some extraordinary culture shocks.
It would almost be like unlearning your own ways and freedoms and starting afresh.

I probably wouldnt try encouraging them to join in the Lords Prayer at the beginning of the day but it would be an historical achievement if the edges of the square were smoothed off to get slightly closer to fitting in the circle. Could be a looong wait.
As for the violence in Sydney and God knows where else, by these 'determined to not fit in but intimidate' up and coming next generation of extremists, like any crime, no actually worse as this is a mini terrorism act. Punishment to fit the crime as a criminal. If jail time is ordered then deportation and black listing. Re offenders deportation black listing.
Posted by jodelie, Friday, 29 August 2014 4:23:17 PM
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Individual,
See what I mean, Steele and Suse when faced with something which they can't compute simply change the subject and make excuses for sex offenders, "Even though I see the truth of the matter I can't talk about group A because it's not socially acceptable and I might lose face so I direct your attention to group B".
Muslims have their faith, gangsters have their gang, they don't need social acceptance the way White SJW's do.
The bare fact is that the average White SJW leads a meaningless life, the hollow fantasy world of Get Up! and the Huffington Post, Facebook groups, Twitter and and E-Harmony.

Jodelle,
The third and fourth generation Middle Eastern kids are the ticking bomb in our midst, they were little kids in 2001 but now they're young adults who've never known anything but the "War On Terror". These are the Tsarnaev brothers, the Woolwich killers,Mohammed Elomar, Khaled Sharrouf and Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary.
Yeah, sure we can accept that only a minority of Muslims support ISIS and the like, 15% would take up arms while 40% of Muslim adults agree with the Jihadi cause on principle but those numbers mean that in Australia we're talking about 50,000 potential terrorists.
We have a weak government and ineffective security services which would be crippled by political correctness in the event of any significant trouble, I seriously doubt that the state could contain a group of ten competent militants, much less a movement of thousands.
We'd have people like Suse and Steele using every means possible to undermine the response and protect the aggressors because people like that are everywhere in the public service.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 29 August 2014 4:34:27 PM
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Good afternoon to you BANJO...

I agree in principle with much of what you've said on the subject of unfettered or unregulated Islamic immigration into this country. Also, I've stated ad nauseam, it's my continued view Islamic immigration is totally incompatible and irreconcilable with both our Aussie culture and our historical Christian orthodoxy and conventionality.

There is another worrying feature that has arisen lately. It would now seem there's a distinct climate of apprehension concerning our own safety here in Oz. An infusion of fear that can be almost 'felt'.

It's even concerning out politicians, as well as many others, particularly those with high public profiles similar to 'talk-back' radio hosts. Though most are sufficiently adroit and circumspect, to ensure they don't engage in language of a kind that might be perceived as provocative, especially whenever they're speaking with an aggressive Islamic caller. Not only to avoid unnecessary and costly legal implications, comparable to the Andrew BOLT matter, a s.86c action. But a fear of reprisals from Islamic fanatics.

Am I over-reacting I hear you say ? Well perhaps I am, that was until I had a couple of 'cold one's' yesterday, with a long standing mate who's been in the electronic media for yonks. We got around to discussing the Syrian crisis and how many of the Aussie born, radicalized young Muslims were leaving our shores in order to fight in Syria and environs.

In response to one of my comments, that the media should 'tell it as it is' rather then being habitually politically correct. He shot back in an instant by saying, 'none of us wishes to be another 'Salman RUSHDIE' ?

Oh there's no doubt, there is fear out there alright, amongst some it's almost palpable !

Most of these young militants, believe the West including Oz, have become weak, paralysed by convention and political correctness, too culturally divided, and too complacent, to ever interdict this uprising of home-grown Islamic terrorism. And I think they're right.

Moreover it's my believe, it is the United Nations itself, that has significantly enervated and incapacitated the West !
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 29 August 2014 5:11:01 PM
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