What must also be noted is that the authorities in Rotherham would have a very real apprehension of violence from the Pakistanis if they had gone public at an early stage or demanded that the Police act, because the Police are just as much at fault here as the social services.
This was the time period of significant unrest among "Asian" youth in the north with severe rioting in Bradford and other towns, if they'd come forward and pointed the finger at this particular ethnic group they town might have gone up in flames.
The other point is that we're not talking about pedophiles grooming girls for their own use, they were being procured for prostitution and being used as entertainment at gatherings of Asian men across the north of England, sex parties if you will with sometimes dozens of participants.

Nowhereman,
That's called a straw man argument, the Saville sex case in particular is very much being used as an indictment of middle class White/English society as a whole and in the mainstream media there's an extreme bias toward only featuring White murderers and sex offenders even when those crimes are far more prevalent in non White ethnic groups.
You've probably heard the name Ted Bundy? What about Anthony Sowell or Chester Turner? You'd know about Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire ripper? What about Kenneth Erskine?

Pericles,

I’m finding your reasoning strange. Tell me if I’m wrong, you are inferring that it is only the Catholic Church who are the paedophiles. Right? If that is the case, why? Paedophilia unfortunately permeates throughout society, again, including the BBC. Some say the secular media like to shine the torch too brightly on the CC on the issue in general moreso than others.

My point again, Catholics do not have a stronghold on paedophilia (that is why it is not exclusive to the CC - get it?) but the Muslims do have a stronghold on terrorism and the poor treatment of women, so your argument is wanting.

You do seem to take things very literally yourself, sorry I don’t think I do. You overreact to the sheer mention of Crusades when the point was about progressives and history. The gist of what I’m saying is about the failings of progressives. Understand? Or too difficult for you? I don’t want a religious war for goodness sake nor am I wanting to incite one. How can we anyway, we are a secular country with a multiculture like the rest of the Western world. And hey, you are the one that seems to be inciting the idea of a religious war by bringing up Christian conflicts for a start. Must be your staunch Atheist stance.

Yes, my opinion on Islam not being a religion is irrelevant but what other religion behaves so radically in a political sense and bizarrely even instructs in toiletry. But then again, everything seems to becoming a religion these days (or a cult in itself) like being a progressive or a hardcore multiCuLturist.
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When a brown guy that is a Muslim likes to fondle children, we should ban all Muslim immigration and deport every last one of them
nowhereman,
I have yet to see evidence of adults having sex with children & marrying children as part of normal daily life in any other society.

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If the authorities in Rotherham had gone about their work objectively and not had looked at the perpetrators of the sex slavery occurring in Northern England as “oh dear, they’re Asian/Muslim, we better walk gently here and just ignore what’s going on so we won’t look any further, as we don’t want to rock the boat”.

Also, who said I was blaming all Muslims? You do have a habit of making presumptions. It seems the progressive stance is to deter any discussion on Islam even though we are seeing atrocities and other bad behaviour in its name all over the joint. I do not hate anyone, I only have genuine concerns otherwise I would not have bothered studying a short course on Islam. I find Islam pretty scary, like many people including English authors, Jeanette Winterson and Salman Rushdie.
Radical Islam that is, which is growing all the time. But as I read on a recent post, Muslims don’t wish to even be differentiated between radical or moderate. Go figure?

So tell me, what do you think of the Islamic attitude towards women in general? Right, you do not wish to discuss - okay then. What do you think of honour killings in Britain being hushed and overlooked. It’s okay as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone? As the saying goes.

Hell, I’m a peace loving hippy at heart but that doesn’t mean I cannot see things as they really are and that I have to forego my critical faculties and not be able to express my concerns.

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Pericules,
>>You’re talking of another era and it is irrelevant as your comparison is Medieval vs Medieval, now it is Medieval vs Modern which is very different.<<
“Tell that to the Protestants and Catholics of Belfast.”
You are deflecting again, I made the reference above to medieval Britain, not Ireland. Or do you think Ireland belongs to Britain? You really like to twist things, don’t you. And again, you like to think it is a religious confict but you are wrong. You just like to think it is.

Has it ever occurred to you that the crux of the Islamic problem might actually be Western secularism? Western hedonism etc? I’ll get back on that one.

Jay of Melbourne, "The other point is that we're not talking about pedophiles grooming girls for their own use, they were being procured for prostitution and being used as entertainment at gatherings of Asian men across the north of England, sex parties if you will with sometimes dozens of participants"

Correct. The procuring and trafficking of children as sex slaves. Add to that other noxious and serious crimes such as kidnapping, getting minors hooked on hard drugs and so on. God knows how many children were taken from the country and sold abroad. How many disappeared and dead?

What about Australia? There are similarities in the policies and conditions. Australian authorities are keeping their heads well down on this.