Woman are seen merely as lesser creatures to be subdued and for the procreation of more Muslims.
Josephus,
Our Feminists seem to have no ojections to those treatments by constantly disputing whenever criticism is directed at islamists who side-step their religion for personal satisfaction.

That's pretty rich, individual, when the thread is flooded with the usual suspects knee-jerking their way through their whack-a-mozzie playbook.

>>Pericles, You want to say something just for sake of saying something, not progressive at all.<<

Someone has to point out the double standards involved in blaming the religion for the crime, thereby allowing every member of that religion to be a legitimate target.

>>We know about the Catholics & we know about the Islamists.<<

So you say. Yet you fail to spot the multitude of historical parallels. Protestants and Catholics have been at war for centuries, merely for being Protestants and Catholics. The results of this perpetual religious war are... what? An eventual acceptance by both sides - Falls Road being a possible exception - that nobody can possibly win, in either the short or long term. Advocating a white-folk versus Islam conflict in Australia just seems completely counterproductive.

>>You are defending the Islamists. Any particular reason why ?<<

Oh, that old thing. I disagree with you, so I must by definition be defending your enemy, a stance that you use to give yourself licence to ignore everything you don't like to think about.

As an atheist, I find the posturings of religionists to be anachronistic, thoughtless (in the literal sense) and downright dangerous. And only a zealot would interpret that as a defence of one side or the other.

And before you leap back into print and say "ah yes, but to a Muslim an atheist is still an apostate, and therefore at risk too", please understand that I am fully aware of this. But that is even more of a reason to oppose the creation of a religious war in Australia.

We should demonstrate that a simple accommodation is possible, with just a modicum of tolerance and understanding. We should lead, not follow.

Pericles

you must be blind to the fact that a religous war has already started. You may well argue whether its right or not to be involved. I mean who cares if thousands of woman are raped, journalist are beheaded and thousands shot dead just for being non muslims. Much more outrage at Israel defending themselves from terrorist who use kids as human shields according to most of our Islam loving progressives. Your comparisons with the Catholic church and Islam is worn out dogma. Why not compare the slaughter of believers by secularist in the form of Stalin or Mao. Oh no doubt you will redefine terms to fit your narrative.

for those interested in truth re Islam. Again it exposes how naive progressives are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY&feature=share

What I find a concern
is that we in the West are clearly setting
the problem up as "Them" against "Us."
We seem to be demonising "Them." And as
another poster pointed out on an article
discussion this whitewash's our own failings
and makes for a mindset incapable of
critical reflection. Politicians then exploit
this for political purposes as does the media.
This doesn't help and makes the fear even greater.

This poster pinpointed the problem to be
not a case of - Christian versus
Islam, but thinking versus reaction.

Foxy this thread is all about the failings of the dominant paradigm which in all developed countries is multiculturalism, all of the problems within those countries and the ones they project outward to the Third World come from 45 years of progressive politics.
You seem to forget that in our country conservatives lost power in 1969 and have never even seriously attempted to assert themselves since, and for pete's sake don't say "Howard" he wasn't a conservative in any sense of the word.