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Rotherham reveals the price we pay for multiculturalism

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Maybe for you, runner.

>>Pericles you must be blind to the fact that a religous war has already started.<<

But I suspect you have been in a permanent state of war, all your religious life. It seems to go with the territory.

>>I mean who cares if thousands of woman are raped, journalist are beheaded and thousands shot dead just for being non muslims.<<

I care, runner. However, caring does not mean that every Muslim is my enemy, any more than every Catholic is my enemy as a result of the particular crimes that some members of their church have performed.

I also care about the shooting of civilians by police in the United States. But I don't feel the need to declare war on the United States. I also care about the asymmetric response of Israel to Hamas provocation, but that does not mean I advocate starting a war against either Israel or Hamas. I also care about the incursions of Russian troops into Ukraine, but I still don't consider that declaring war on Russia is at all constructive.

Saying "you don't care" is nothing more than an empty insult, intended to divert attention from the real issues.

>>Your comparisons with the Catholic church and Islam is worn out dogma.<<

This is not about dogma, it is about the irrational response of declaring war on people merely because of their beliefs. These are not comparisons, they are precedents. And all the evidence of history points to the fact that from a religious war, there are never any winners.

>>Why not compare the slaughter of believers by secularist in the form of Stalin or Mao. Oh no doubt you will redefine terms to fit your narrative.<<

So do tell, runner. Is it the fact that Stalin and Mao slaughtered people, or that they slaughtered "believers", that concerns you most? And do you think we should have entered into a religious war with Russia or China as a result of what they were doing?

From past experience, I don't expect a coherent response to any of this, so don't bother.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 12:09:42 PM
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Who created the "Them and Us" mentality; just read the articles put out by Muslims living in the Western democracy's. They hate the democratic system and prefer theocratic social control by Imams. That is why they cry about their children brought up in Western freedoms. Parents cannot control them because parents believe the State should control; and complain when the State does not control. The State is only there for out of control or criminal persons, and this is where Muslim youth conflict with the State and blame the State for not giving them sufficient religious moorings. {see the thread on Moderate Muslims]
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 1:34:05 PM
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I have been away for a while and have not followed this but, if the latest beheading claim is proven true, it's time to rid the WOLD of these grubs forever and every nation should get involved to get the job done. Enough talk, enough delay we must act now.

Then, once these grubs are removed we must then ban this hatful crap world wide.

We must unite and say, no more!
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 1:40:35 PM
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Rotherham: politics ‘imported from Pakistan’ fuelled sex abuse cover-up – MP

An unhealthy brand of politics “imported” from Pakistan is partly to blame for the cover-up of mass child abuse in Rotherham and other British cities, a campaigning MP has claimed.
Simon Danczuk, who helped expose a pattern of grooming of white teenage girls by men from a Pakistani background in Rochdale, where he is the Labour MP, said a culture of intimidation and closing of ranks within parts of the Asian community had mired politics in towns and cities across northern England for years.
He said Asian councillors were under constant pressure from the community to “conform” and other politicians acquiesced for fear of being accused of racism, failing to face up to evidence of abuse as a result.
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The Rotherham scandal and a series of cases in towns including Rochdale highlighted how evidence of Pakistani men targeting white girls for abuse was repeatedly played down for fear of accusations of racism.

Denis MacShane: I was too much of a 'liberal leftie' and should have done more to investigate child abuse 27 Aug 2014

Mr Danczuk said the elements of Pakistani political culture itself were partly to blame for the cover-up.
“There are cultural issues around the way politics are done in the Asian community which have to change,” he said.
He said he had personally come under pressure from Asian councillors and members of the community for speaking out as well as being warned by prominent figures in his party.
He pointed to the way in which two Muslim councillors in Rochdale had provided character references for one of the perpetrators of the Rochdale abuse.
“Politics are done differently in Pakistan, it is a cultural difference we have imported some of that into some of these northern towns and cities and I think we have to face up to the fact that we can’t carry on doing politics like that."
“It is not healthy and the direct consequence is that we end up having to tackle issues like has been faced in Rotherham.”...

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Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 2:04:58 PM
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we in the West are clearly setting the problem up as "Them" against "Us."
Foxy,
wrong as usual. "They" are making that distinction !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 6:59:09 PM
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Such is the all-encompassing nature of the totalitarian political correctness of 'Progressivism' that even the independent reports on Rotherham forget to mention that some and perhaps many of the child victims would have been boys. It is girls, sometimes children, but never boys as the victims mentioned. Need three guesses, or will one do?
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 7:24:38 PM
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