I'm wondering if some have taken the wrong inference from some of individuals comments. Wish I could underline the word some by the way.

I came across an article regarding a missing dossier on a paedophile ring amongst british politicians http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/05/david-cameron-demands-answers-paedophile-ring_n_5559443.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

There is in my view some basis for a view that politicians and the judicary protect each other to some extent, actually writing that I also think the media is also part of that protection when it suits. Thats the aspect that stuck out for me in one of recent posts by individual that has drawn some ire. Not helped by the suggestion that it was only groping, as if that makes it a minor issue.

Ludwig, I've not found specifics on what the awards were for but my impression is that Harris got generalised awards rather than ones for specific achievements. Being an all round nice guy and giving entertainers a good image type awards rather than best painting, best song type awards. If thats the case then his actions wiped any basis for those awards out. I still can't see why you are so bothered by the consequences Harris is wearing for his actions, they are far less harsh than many people wear for one off incidents or sometimes no wrongdoing at all. Harris was a serial sexual abuser who has shown no regard for the consequences of his actions on others. There are far worse abusers around but that does not take away from his actions.

R0bert

now you are attacking someone who has herself been a victim.
SteeleRedux,
I did ask her to explain what action she took with her stepfather but she chose not to. As for 8 to 13 year old girls leading him on? Is that so impossible ? Are you trying to tell me that at that age some kids are not capable of doing that ? What with so much around us in media & advertising you're trying to tell me there's no such influence ? Come on now, if it's not about money then it's about sexual exploitataion & connotation. Why, even toys have been produced to that effect for even younger children. What about the Wiggles ? Even they have tried it with their two Mommies or two Daddies ? What age is their target group ?
Chrisgaff1000 has it spot-on. Disagreeing with reality is the one thing you Lefties are so terribly wrong at. Accepting it is virtually beyond you. Much easier cop-out to attack those who think deeper.

RObert, you say <<There is in my view some basis for a view that politicians and the judicary protect each other to some extent,>> that may well be true, but in its self has no bearing on the Harris case.
Its not in dispute Harris received various awards, and some of those awards were for meritorious community works. But, in noway does such awards lessen Harris' offences, nor should they be used as a 'get out of jail free card'. It would be just as irrelevant to say Harris' music was good and loved by millions therefore that is mitigation for his crimes, its not.
<< As for 8 to 13 year old girls leading him on? Is that so impossible ?>> Indi, read the judges comments, you seem to choose not to, and instead choose to put your own ill-informed comments in their place.
<<Much easier cop-out to attack those who think deeper.>> Indi, based on some of your comments, you do not appear to "think" at all.

Well, Good morning...

I did think perhaps I might be finished here, having spent way longer on this subject than I intended to...mainly due to being constantly appalled by everything that dribbles off individual's fingers onto his keyboard.

And he hasn't disappointed me today.

individual says....

"I did ask her to explain what action she took with her stepfather but she chose not to..."

What weasel words are they!...this guy should be a pollie.

This is what you said to me after I related my story.

""Btw, did you end up getting your stepfather locked up or wasn't he famous enough ?"

The insinuation loaded in that sentence is palpable, You weren't interested at all in what, if any, action came of my own experience. Your despicable reply was a barbed attack on myself, because you appear to be a nasty piece of goods who has little sympathy for any "youngster" who is taken advantage of by an adult.

You have done nothing on this thread but seek to mitigate Rolf's culpability in his own demise.

RObert says:
"I'm wondering if some have taken the wrong inference from some of individuals comments..."

No we haven't. Do you need any better example for individual trying to weasel out of his original point than the one I have written above?

And now he compounds it with..

"As for 8 to 13 year old girls leading him on? Is that so impossible ?"

Yes, I can imagine how an 8 Year-old waiting for an autograph could be construed by an innocent middle-aged entertainer as a come on - and deserving of a grope in the crotch.

Here we go again....individual is insinuating that it couldn't possibly have been Harris who availed himself of opportunities to do what he did, the poor bloke was perhaps led on, not only by a girl he saw often, but by complete strangers he'd just met...and that explains his serial abuses

(individual: "What about the Wiggles ?"....What about them?)

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YOU/DONT CARE/FOR\ANY-ONE[JUST YOU?]

chrisgaff,

Did you ever frequent the first floor of the Crystal Palace just up from Mick Smith's in George St?