This is fascinating.

A classic example of trolling.

After all, no-one in real life could actually hold the views espoused by individual, could they?

Outside a fully-operational paedophile ring, that is.

Pericles is so right!

"This is fascinating.

A classic example of trolling.

After all, no-one in real life could actually hold the views espoused by individual, could they?

Outside a fully-operational paedophile ring, that is."

And one does wonder why I've been so sucked in to debating with individual and his decidedly "creepy" argument.

Fascinating though...

His latest.

"If a crook Police officer wants to lay an assault charge he can do so by simply saying you assaulted him when you merely tapped him on the arm to get his attention.
I got the distinct feeling you & Steele are of the same calibre as such a copper.
as for your personal situation I can only say YOU brought that up, not I.
To quite honest I doubt your story of assault now that you've exposed your despicable mentality."

Who gives a flying toss whether you believe me or not, indy. You're lurching now from one ridiculous argument to another. We're all beginning to get a little sea sick...what with that and your nauseating excuses for these crimes.

Step it up a bit...the only value you have now on this subject is entertainment...and even that is waning.

Dear Pericles,

I'm not so sure it is trolling since individual's attempts at mitigation and diversion (as feeble as they were) are not that typical of a troll which is why I chose to describe it as flaming.

I think it might be a case of various hangups coalescing in a perfect storm.

Hatred of feminists, of the left, of PC, of do-gooders, of those who disagree with him on this forum I think have resulted in him originally posting a comment that he might not have if he had given it more thought.

Possibly if the condemnation had come from others on his side of politics then we may well have seen a retraction but given the primary source of disapproval he felt he had to stick to his guns and defend the indefensible.

He had most certainly been showing signs of testiness before this but his actions here have firmly placed him with the other OLO fringe dwellers with whom rational debate is a waste of time.

Individual is so right. It's not assault at all. If it was, just about every man in existence would now be doing jail time. I bet Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr and all the hundreds of other 60s stars still alive, are now shaking in their boots because of the Rolf Harris case. These guys must have touched up thousands of girls, and as soon as one gold digger comes forward with a "story" for sale it opens up the floodgates.

Good afternoon to you INDIVIDUAL...

You made a remark some little time back, where you inferred there were probably much higher profile individuals than Rolf Harris, who've committed worst crimes against children - or words to that effect ? Well you're quite correct.

I often marvel at the capriciousness of people when they're on a specific tangent ? An example if I may, years back I'd been on the periphery of a job involving a bloke by the name of Leonard Keith LAWSON (dec). This individual had committed some atrocious crimes against the person, (CHRISGAFF1000 would know him?) including that of murder, rape, abduction, including a young school girl, at an exclusive Moss Vale Boarding School for girls, in NSW. And amazingly, abducting and assaulting a girl 'inside' the Chapel of Parramatta Gaol !

LAWSON was a particularly gifted artist. In fact prior to gaol he was a commercial artist and a Comic Book author/artist penning the successful comic, 'The Lone Avenger' Cowboy series. He therefore continued with his art, the entire duration he was in custody. People from all strata of the community, sought out and purchased LAWSON'S artwork. Some of his works were even hung, in a NSW government display at 'The Rocks', Circular Quay.

How so ? One could well argue, society had knowledge of LAWSON'S crimes ? Whereas, Rolf HARRIS was a beacon of the Aussie musical society, and a brilliant Artist as well ? Until recently, when his dark antecedents were ultimately and publically disseminated.

An interesting proposition I would've though ?

Poirot, I hope you saw my wish to highlight the word some. I don't see any benefit in me adding to the discussion about the other parts. I've already said as clearly as I can my views on the idea that it's only groping. Compounded by some of todays posts. I'm still trying to work out if RightIsRight was having a stir or was serious. Looking at some of his or her other posts I' concerned it may have been genuine.

I was though interested in the point raised regarding those they don't go after and to be clear Paul I agreed it does not mitigate anything about Harris but he is in jail and I think the discussion about him has bogged down into largely entrenched positions however the broader topic of dealing with paedophiles need not sit there. The loss of a dossier on a paedophile ring amongst british parlimentarians and the seeming lack of action on that does seem relevant. Likewise individuals point about the seemingly low levels of action over what is as far as I know very high levels of child sexual abuse in indiginous communities.

Given the polarised nature that parts of this debate have taken on I'll clarify a couple of points.

I don't generally work with the assumption that because I disagree with most or much of what someone says on a topic that everything they say on the topic is invalid. Sometimes those people are the ones that help me think outside the box the best.

TBC
R0bert