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Is it fair that fines, generally, are expressed as a set amount?

Would it not be fairer if fines were, as in some other countries, a percentage of income?

That way the job seeker on benefits and the millionaire are equally punished for, let us say, parking infringements.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 9:55:44 AM
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if fines were a percentage of income?

Is Mise,

God only knows how many times I have argued this here over the years. So gratifying to see others come around to that way of thinking. cheers

Non-military National Service is next in line.
Then a flat Tax. Welcome back Australia.
Posted by individual, Friday, 2 May 2014 8:36:39 AM
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IS MISE.. you dont comprehend what a fine means
its an offer..that you may ignore or,sign into the value

[ITS NOT meant to be punitive..its pure REVENUE RAISING]
if your happy with the serrvice simply sign it ans return it to trannie dept/who sends it to treasiry who monetise it/paying off the debt in full

see under the constituted law..
THERE IS ONLY ONE lawfull/
MEANS OF PAYING /SETTLING DEBT

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 115
States not to coin money

A State shall not coin money, nor make anything but gold and silver coin a legal tender in payment of debts.
[and even better it limits the amount that can be settled in l-awfull tender

IT HAS BEEN further clarified by high court[173 of 1993]
CURRENCY ACT 1965 - SECT 16
Legal tender

(1) A tender of payment of money is a legal tender
a/if it is made in coins that are made and issued under this Act
b/and are of current weight:

[its further clarified

(a) in the case of coins of the denomination of Five cents, Ten cents, Twenty cents or Fifty cents or coins of 2 or more of those denominations--[for payment of an amount not exceeding $5]..[* but for no greater amount;

(b) in the case of coins of the denomination of One cent or Two cents or coins of both of those denominations--for payment of an amount not exceeding 20 cents *..but for no greater amount;]

get it?
higher debts are paid for simply by signature/upon the 'BILL'
OR VIA REMITTANCES SIGNED RETURNED/MONETIZED

ITS ALL ABOUT HRH EXCLUSIVE Franchise....under siegnorage
please not the debasement=treason..of her coin/her realm.

ctd
Posted by one under god, Friday, 2 May 2014 9:51:30 AM
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SE GOVTS WENT BROKE YEARS AGO
THERE HAD TO BE A WAY TO aeTTLE DEBTS..[AS A LIE CANNOT CREATE CLEAR TITLE]..THEY NEDED TRUE VALUE FOR EQUABLE VALUE..ITS A HIGHER FORM OF BARTER..(c) in the case of coins of a denomination greater than Fifty cents but less than Ten dollars--for payment of an amount not exceeding 10 times the face value of a coin of the denomination concerned [but for no greater amount;]

(d) in the case of coins of the denomination of Ten dollars--for payment of an amount not exceeding $100 but for no greater amount; and

(e) in the case of coins of another denomination--for payment of any amount.

(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), a coin shall be deemed to be not of current weight if it has become diminished in weight by wear or otherwise so as to be of less weight than the weight prescribed as the least current weight of that coin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44hT122k6qY
If the Vatican claims a woman that is healed by John Paul II after his death makes him a saint, which according to Scripture is a bold faced lie, then would a statue erected in his honor that kills a man now declare him evil?
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=VATICAN+CRUSAFIX+CRUSHES+MAN&
let the judgment daze begin..make me explain
Posted by one under god, Friday, 2 May 2014 9:53:59 AM
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Is Mise one of the problems with income based systems is that there ar to many things they don't take into account. They don't include any measure of affordability to the person being asked to pay based on income, they don't include any measure of how hard someone works for the income they do have, they generally don't include a real measure of the resources a person has access to.

At best they are based on a very broad brushed assumption that taxable income is a valid measure of what people can afford which is rarely the case.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Friday, 2 May 2014 10:40:06 AM
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robert/quote..<<..they generally don't include a real measure of the resources a person has access to.>>

its not meant to..[see that those in the know/know the law]
and those not in the know..dont know because they refuse to believe it could really be so.

so how is it supposed to work?
we formed govt..decided they needed to self fund
so we allowed them to tax 'incomes'..[ie money not earned..by value adding componant[ie work]..well coin was fine for all that/untill we went broke.

under the terms of bankruptcy..there had to be a way to settle the higher debts/that coin cant settle/this was done by things like iou/that are promise to pay/bonds..where we issue a bond [signed sealed].to treasury/and treasury adjusts the books[if its fair..your bound by your promise to pay..if the promise is gopopd and you remain in honour at death we settled the estates/balanced the books.

its difficult to explain the taste of meat to a vegan
but recall the law/dont sign aNYTHING/IF YOU DO its an offer
they issued their boND /VIA THE FINE..ON THEIR LETTER HEAD/UNDER THEIR SEAL[SIGN/SIG-NATURE]..ITS AN OFFER TO GIVE YOU THE HONOURABLE MEANS TO SETTLE IT

SO..all you need do with anything under its logo/seal trade-mark
[mark of the beast]..is an offer/if it mentions money..its an offer to settle the debt/in honour

some sign in a box[this disconnects the offer/but us used as a sign against the will/indicates no meeting of mind/but if there is a meeting of mind/simply sign-it..that is suposed to settle it/but so few know of it/let alone tested it

i test it on 6 may

its size must be equal
but so too is the means to settle it in coin/or by signature
dont sweat on it..sign it saying johan did it will make the fine go away...[i may need many court cases/but will prove its gods way]

put your sig-nature..on the promise to pay
sign it recogniseD FOR VALUE*

wikiseedwikigeld sun treaty
29 aquarious festival
2002
Posted by one under god, Friday, 2 May 2014 11:32:18 AM
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