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'As a multicultural society, we should take a very dim view of this sort of behaviour'

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Cassandra Wilkinson who worked for various senior Labor figures including Labor Premiers emphatically discounted the Jewish influence. 'Practically invisible' she said, 'much misunderstood, just occasional friendships'. Here you go @ 02:05,

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/former-foreign-minister-bob-carr-says-kevin-rudd-would-want-un-secretarygeneral-job/story-fnihsrf2-1226890042244

On the other hand, the Grand Mufti of Australia wrote a letter through his political adviser to influence the selection of a leader and to kybosh a senior union figure's chances. That is also discussed in the video.

You seem to be at sixes and sevens trying to conceal the acknowledged strong influence of Muslims over the Labor Party.

Obviously Muslims have a monkey grip on the Labor Party, why deny what is so obvious and the evidence is there? Why 'bone' the Jewish community to boot?
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 20 April 2014 1:33:30 PM
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SteeleRedux "For years people were locked up in remote centres"

Villawood is remote?

"Name one ethical statement made, or one ethical action performed, by a believer that could not have been uttered or done by a nonbeliever."

It's the unethical that's the problem.

Do we hear daily reports of terrorism/atrocities by atheists and agnostics?
Or Buddhists, Wiccans, Jehovah's Witnesses?

"The ability to regard other human beings as lesser"

You don't need religion for that.
Reality will do fine (e.g. IQ tests, GDP-per-capita, Human Development Index).

"His father came to work the cane fields in 1900."

As Lou Reed says "Those were different times".

Firstly, they *had* to integrate.
There were so few of them, they couldn't set up their own little fiefdom.

Secondly, the radicalisation of the Islamic world had barely begun.
Those Imperial-era Muslims may as well have been from another planet compared to today's.

This case should exemplify what the consequences of excessive pancultural immigration are, but it will go in one ear and out the other.

Perhaps you should think a little harder about what difficulties you are creating for those long-established families, who inevitably get lumped in with the recent "flood".

Foxy "the problems of the Middle-East deal with local issues in those areas"

But they don't stay local.

The Muslims in Sydney apparently think these are their issues too.
Posted by Shockadelic, Sunday, 20 April 2014 3:57:28 PM
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Dear SPQR,

Mr Thwackam, a character om Henry Fielding's novel
"Tom Jones," declares:

"When I mention religion, I mean the Christian religion;
and not only the Christian religion, but the
Protestant religion; and not only the Protestant religion,
but the Church of England."

Most people are like Mr Twackum: when they mention religion,
they have their own in mind - and they certainly feel
that other religions are not on a par with theirs.
There are a large number of religions
whose members are convinced that theirs is the one true
faith and that all others are misguided, superstitious,
and even wicked.

As for the history of Indigenous-Settler relations?
It is now possible to explore the past by means
of a large number of books, articles, films, novels,
song, paintings, and many primary sources. Many
voices have filled out the space once claimed to
be the "Great Australian Silence." But as has been
stated in the past - knowing brings burdens which
can be shirked by those living in ignorance.

With knwledge the wuestion is no longer what we know -
but what we are not to do, and that is a much harder
matter to deal with.

Much has changed. Much has been achieved. Tolerance
and understanding have broadened out. Bigotry
is slowly beginning to retreat. Black armband
history is often distressing, but it does enable us
to know and understand the incubus which burdens us all.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 20 April 2014 4:05:14 PM
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Dear Shocker,

All the Muslims in Sydney are involved in
overseas issues?
Really? Well apparently - then they're in good
company. Our former PM's
also got us involved in "Muslim" issues.
Just ask any soldier who's come back
recently as well as the ones who have already
served.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 20 April 2014 4:13:11 PM
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Foxy,

As I hinted before, you and Steele are very one-eyed, very selective when it comes to discussing the un-nice things of the past. If it's an event from White/European history there will be full-on criticism-- even on the flimsiest of evidence.

And despite all your assurances or Foxy-waffle <<It is now possible to explore the past ...>> things are rarely as clear cut as you pretend.

ON THE OTHER-HAND, should someone expose one of the un-nice deeds of Islam, you and Steele (and a whole phalanx of Lefties) get all defensive and start accusing them of hate crimes.

And that is why we so often disagree.
Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 20 April 2014 4:47:48 PM
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SPQR,

You are in the esteemed company of Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris who immediately copped a flogging from their former adoring worshippers of the liberal persuasion (as in the US usage of liberal) when these three decided to level a few criticisms at Islam.

Dawkins was set on fire twice. The second time for saying that he didn't need to have read all of the Koran to know what it meant. Just as he didn't need to read all of Mein Kampf to know that it was decidedly nasty for mankind.

So, you know what is expected of you: brick bats for Christians and those white folks from Britain; and an open door and free pass to Centrelink for all who arrive from anywhere else.

But whatever you do, don't mention that other religion or whatever it is.

Unless you praise it and dance to its tune. Here you go,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK7CVNyBALo
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 20 April 2014 5:35:06 PM
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