WELCOME..TO THE ENRON/WAY..recall they destroyed buildiNG 7
did 911..just to make the enron expose go away..but the sin goes on

yjey steal our super
making our wages short
then by easy credit..trap us in endless debt

from.sacrificial lambs
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16206&page=0
the leeches suck at our pay/everyday..
so that to survive..we need live off credit/CARD.high intrest to meet the pension outlay

ADD/IN SIN TAXES..go away..the dead..must stop bleeding us dry
sin tax leeches..GOOD MONEY AWAY BY BAD LIE..GOVT..IS NOT CREATED.TO MODIFY our morality...nor STEAL AWAY..our pay..go away.ENRON ESQ PRICING.HAS HAD..ITS DAY

OUR/SACRIFICE...BUILDS..YOUR infrastructure

GOVT BUILDS PIPELINES..FREE FOR SANTOS/BUYS BACK SOLAR POWER AT 3 TIMES SALE PRICE...HERE MORE CRIME..exit 118..Approved by Federal Highway Administration
http://mesquitelocalnews.com/sections/news/local-news/exit-118-approved-federal-highway-administration.html

Federal Highway Administration.(FHWA) has approved the installation of Exit 118 along Interstate 15.in Mesquite,Right near the Bundy Ranch,[SEE OTHER LINKS]..which means the planis to seize the open lands and sell them .to developers for shopping centers,etc.

NEPOTISM?..OF COURSE..KEEPING IT IN THE FAMILY

Son Representing Chinese Solar Panel Plant in $5 Billion Nevada Deal
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/04/Harry-Reid-s-Son-Representing-Chinese-Solar-Panel-Plant-In-5-Billion-Nevada-Deal

a Chinese energy company..seeking to build a $5 billion solar panel plant on a 9,000-acre Clark County desert plot in Laughlin, Nevada.

ENN scored big when Clark County commissioners unanimously voted to sell the Chinese company the public land..for just $4.5 million, despite the fact.that it was appraised at $38.6 million.

PLUS THE..global/FRAKKERS/./LEASES NEED THE WATER RIGHTS
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/blm-fracking-racket-exposed-armed-siege-and-cattle-theft-from-bundy-ranch-really-about-fracking-leases_042014

REGARDLESS OF COST
http://12160.info/page/bundy-ranch-federal-officials-spend-966-000-on-contractors-to-rem

http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/blackwater-mercs-in-blm-uniforms-hitting-bundy-ranch-video-and

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/04/07/harrys-reids-toxic-influence-on-politics/

thing is..the bigger the bribe..the more in/on the scam

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=12418

we build it..with your money
then you..can pay the rent..once the hard work..is done

all superannuation..for the masses has done..is cash up criminals
to steal public utilities.like commonwealth ban telstra..quasi privatization gas water power..the price triples and thats a great way..to get you to pay your own pension..plus interest/plus capitalist..'return'//plus bonus.and excess fees,,,please

any govt.that borrows.....its own money from bankers..does treason
ignorance of the law..is no excuse..[if you make the laws...then you must die by the law]

steal our super steal..our public assets..steal our govt
make our wages short..lend us back our own super.at 15 percent..win win..for the money men..sin-tax reaping..bah

Shocka – You shocker! What a load of self-indulging noise.

Get real, the undisputable fact is 54.45%, a majority of voters didn’t want the current mob. As stated previously, that’s without a credible alternative.

Me think’s your iceberg tip is a prop made of Styrofoam, no matter how you spin it or how delusional you are!

We as a community must never let King Arthur and his nights of half round trough, to increase their power and influence.

If we do Crackcup will have no pension.

Shocker, your white supremacist politics has been totally rejected in Australia. Such ratbags as One Nation or Australia First types may garner a modicum of support in the USA but not here. Hanson, who has been around in everything except a washing machine, has been rejected time and again by the voters. Even The Fuhrer himself Jim Saleam from the Australia First Party tried his hand in 2013 in the federal seat of Cook and got a laughable 617 votes! One Nation did indeed get a million vote in 1998, how many did they get in 2013? Been a long time between drinks for your mob! Shocker are you a party member, or like another forumite, I could name, too lousy to pay the subs? LOL

Hi Producer,

Just to continue a little on the original topic. Shocker referred to the "lefties" and by definition there must be "righties" also in existence. The oft used terms of left and right in politics is a concept I can never fathom, it implies its measurable from some central source and therefore views, opinions, policy, etc can be quantified, which they can't. I much prefer the terms "progressive" and "conservative". I see myself in general terms as a progressive on most political issues that arise, being one who is willing to embrace change for the perceived good of society, whilst the conservative view supports no change, most likely for the same altruistic reasons, we know from experience the reasons that drive people (politicians) are not always so altruistic, but that is human nature.
I see ones politics as being divided into two distinct concepts, the first being a personal political philosophy, all that general feel good stuff about the rights of man and the democratic process and the rule of law etc etc and how this all should be achieved etc etc. Then there is the nuts and bolts of political policy, generally expressed by others (politicians) and agreed to or otherwise by us the people, with our overriding opinion, in our society, being expressed through the ballot box. To try and put it simply the philosophy might be the acceptance that taxation is necessary for the greater good of society, the policy as proposed by some is a Carbon Tax, others oppose such a tax, but they don't oppose tax as a philosophy per say, just this particular policy as part of taxation. Added to the mix is the "extremist" who's political philosophy is so far removed from main stream that it is indeed extreme, but by definition extremists are few in number. In my taxation example the extremest philosophy is taxation is unacceptable and there any policy that proposes any tax must be opposed.
Simply a person can be politically progressive and conservative all depending on the particular issue, and how it gels with their particular philosophy

Paul 1405 says: <<Shocker referred to the "lefties" and by definition there must be "righties">>

Aaaah!

The correct terms are *righties* and *wronguns*

If you are not a right you can only be wrong!

See here's the definition of a wroungun: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wrongun
It describes you, Paul, and Producer down to a T.

Paul1405 – Although I do not argue with your definition of progressive and conservative, as a definition of a philosophical concept. Such philosophies I believe can and do lead to a lot of interpretation and the weasel words that accompany. This can lead to great debate on the part at the expense of the whole.

Putting individual personal philosophy to one side I prefer to drill down to the mechanism that controls the philosophical and practical aspects of power/government.

We do not have a representative democratic system in this country. The current system switches power between the so called left/right and progressive/conservative with a very small swing in the electorate. A swing equivalent to seven seats resulted in a change of seventeen. It also disenfranchises the representation a significant proportion of the electorate.

Until we correct this fundamental wrong we will not have the debate and compromise that is currently missing in the halls of power.

I suppose the question I would ask you is where such a concept sit’s in your philosophy.