Hasbeen

Why is it when you (and for that matter the spin brigade) are presented with a proposition you can’t answer or is outside your philosophical beliefs you resort to personal insults.

I’m sure they make interesting reading. I have been absent from this forum for a number of months and it is my opinion the there are fewer participants and the opinions presented are less diverse.

I was saddened to see long term participant Belly had departed the scene while I was away. Although I was largely at odds to Belly’s philosophy I found Belly added much colour to this forum and considered him a gentleman. I was not privy to the intimate circumstance of why he decided to leave so I will not comment. I believe he would not have done so lightly and I believe he is missed by many that contribute and did contribute to this forum.

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Hi Producer,

A comment on the public health system. My partner works in a large public children's hospital in Sydney. She has nothing but praise for the hospital staff, not only the direct medical staff, who do an outstanding job, but in general she has praise for all the hospital staff from the top down, with the commitment and loyalty they show to the children and the hospital itself, a rare thing in the workplace these days. "T" is a delegate for the HSU and I don't need to going into detail as to how some within the union betrayed the workers, that has been well publicised in the past, my partner has first hand knowledge as to what has taken place, and hopefully justice will be done, Williamson being the first and hopefully not the last to feel the sward of justice in that regard.
A new and dangerous threat to the public hospital system in NSW is coming from the conservative O'Farrell Government, which ha embarked on a well orchestrated campaign to damage the public system to a point where it will become so unworkable that people will have no other option/choice than to seek health services from the private sector, wherever they can. We are heading towards an "American" style heath system riddled with inequality, and lacking in service for many whilst pandering to the wants of the privileged few.
Liberalism was once about fairness, sadly that is no longer the case with the Liberal Party now controlled by the neoconservatives who hold no pretense to serving society for the social good, but rather looking to be divisive, and serving vested interests only, pandering to the greed of their supportive minority, through the manipulation of the majority.

belly left..[in my opinion]..because he saw/both parties..having issues/but those seeing them selves..on the other side..refused to back off..he was willing to be fair..but those who opposed him//kept digging away

lots indeed went away..but we are always leaving anyway
I LOOK UP AND SEE NO CAPS..WOW..[oops..lol]..i dont control the caps/but heck if thats all they got..thats all they can reply

anyhow alex jones is on the target..today
he speaks in all caps..whereas my preference = no caps
if you can disconnect the shift button..[ie no caps]..i would be fine
FOR ME ITS JUST FUNNY.,.damm there it went again..any yhow to me its funny/as when i wriTE IN LONg hand..its near all caps/as i never learned..to scribe words in lower case/but now cause of a simply consubale computer cliche..my typing resembles more closely my hand[and im not bying more computers..im over that obsolesance vbuilt in programing/and im not alone[pleasse note the high teq marketing system..STOCK..IS FALLING..inbuilt obsolesance..IS A FAILED MARKETING PLOY..buy a new one..or we kill the old operating system

yeah that worked..for a while
then people got angry/so the trolls said stop all anger
if its in caps..dont emote..dont feel or feel bad id someone uses caps

lol what a world the teq rats and money changers have built

you can talk freely
but please dont yell..yeah time doth tell
the bell tolls..whats worse yelling truth or trolls?

OUG

To be fair to the 'Usual Suspects' on here, who attack all those with opposing opinions, including this 'Little Green Pixie', who in turn gives as good as he gets. Being part of a political discussion/forum, its not for the faint heart'd, and I'm sure the moderator takes that into account when assessing the "wortheness " or otherwise of the material so posted. I personally apply the "Armadillo Principle" no good just being thick skinned but you need a thick shell as well and "uninsultability" is also a worthwhile attribute to possess when engaging with some of those with countering views to your own.
If you really want to get fired up just join the 'Flower Arranging for Beginners Forum' and watch the sparks fly! I am one of the shrinking violets on that forum, but I can tell you, that F'n B, Mary whats her name from Whooping is a low down dirty...what would she know about arranging roses, I hope all the petals fall off her geranium, and her aspidistra get the wilt! Gee, feels good to get that off my compost pit. Tomorrows discussion is about the value of petunias in the home garden, now that is a controversial subject, hopefully that could lead to blood shed in the tool shed, as the subject always invokes raw emotion with some of us. LOL

Paul1405 – Your comments must with everything else be of additional concern to Crackcup.

I believe that as a society we have to be forever vigilant to the rorts from all areas of our community. It is very crowded around King Arthur’s half round trough for him and his nights (the lot of them are very dark). Room is at a premium as the snouts grow larger.

I concur with your observations of the health sector, particularly with your comments concerning an American insurance based system. I think the current system is already pandering to the privileged few and many of the privileged few (I am not referring to your partner) are service providers.

Insurance I believe is an integral part of our health system however. I also believe that this insurance should be universal and financed by the public for the public. If run properly it will be cheaper as there is no profit motive and duplicated administration. Other changes also need to be made.

As we evolve to the American style model the cost will continue to rise and the system will continue to become more selective.

Publically subsidised private health insurance, like toll roads, and privatisation are examples of weak government shirking their responsibilities. They underestimate the intelligence of the electorate as Anna found out and Can Do Mini Me and others will. It shifts the hard decisions, cost and responsibility of public policy to the private sector at a considerable greater cost to the electorate.

As I have said many times on this forum and will continue to say, we currently have 45.55% minority government. I believe what you say about the current health system applies to the current goverment. They are looking to be divisive, and serving vested interests only, pandering to the greed of their supportive minority, through the manipulation of the majority.

To be fair this current government does not carry total responsibility for our health system. The current situation has evolved over many minority parliaments and while the minority red team was in power as well.

Producer, the political group The Wombles are anarchist anti-capitalists and the BBC TV show was an exercise in green brainwashing for children.

Thatcher would hardly be on the same list as either type.
Perhaps you should find more "correct" terminology or go to the headmaster.

"the opinions presented are less diverse."

Bet you didn't have a problem when the site was left-dominated a few years back.

The tide has turned. Poor baby.
If you think this is the "worst" of it, buckle up.

What you see here is just the tip of the iceberg (or perhaps tsunami would be more appropriate).
There are probably millions of others who have similar opinions, but say nothing in public.

One Nation got a million votes in 1998 (9%).
There's been 15 years of Multi-Hell since then.
Another 2.3 million immigrants, at least 1.4 million of non-European ancestry.

Good luck ever dominating this forum or our society ever again, lefties.