Activities such as tourism, entertainment, advertising, law and accounting create jobs but do not produce anything within the country and therefore are non-productive activities. It can be argued that some these activities can bring wealth into the country. For example foreign tourism brings wealth to the country. If you look at the concept globally tourism is shifting productive wealth from another part of the globe, it does not create wealth. If Australia was full of local tourists all we would have is a lot of starving nomads.

I call these group parasites as they need a productive host to survive.

There are good parasites that are desirable. A healthy producer will live longer and produce more. It can therefore argue doctors, nurses and medical research are parasitic but desirable. Other desirable parasites ones that educate uphold justice (not law) and those who protect and secure. Providing we don’t get overloaded with parasites and they are the good ones, they can contribute in a positive way.

I’m going to continue the simplicity

If all income is linked to productivity and the producers are the ones that are most rewarded it will be more desirable to become a producer. It should not however be a prerequisite. If for example an individual who wants to study music and become a musician, they could draw the minimum wage but still must participate meaningfully in their community for a certain amount of time to receive it. They can then use the rest of their time to study.

As I have said previously it is critical such a scheme is controlled at a community level. This is not to say there should not be an external approval system or a degree of monitoring to give direction and avoid corruption. There may be situations where mentors live in a community to assist in establishment and transition.

There would be concerns with the corruption and waste at the little end of town and the need for it to be controlled. I think you would agree there is more waste and corruption at the big end of town

the basic principle..that guides..all my thinking..is without production..there is nothing..>>

hence/your chosen/name

<<.I therefore link..*everything*..back to that principle.>>

just as my name/alters..that i see/hear/feel
its..a life/choice..but we see so often..name changers/even on olo
i often regretted..i painted..my tag..the color..it is..but thats my/handi-cap/burden..to bare.

<<..If we all sat down..and did nothing..we would not survive.>>

agreed/but..that definition..isnt..included..in the word/production
[production..needs a prod-DUCT..to sell a product..the others NEED money/to by your pro-duct

<<..We must produce food,?..>>
when all around/us is bounty?
you grow food?[god makes the sun/RAIN/THE SEED TO GROW
WHAT HAVE YOU PRODUCED..[DID YOU PRODUCE/THE SEED?]

IS NOT PRODUCE..produce/product..of natures bounty
WHO..PRODUCED THE PROD-DUCT?

SEE HOW..CAIN/THE ONE..WHO BORE HIS FATHERS CURSE
[LOL]..to till the ground/that refused to yield[please recall..he took living seeds/killed them/by crushing/them..into flour.then half cremated/them..on fire

[this is production?]..please see how pre-pared food..allows poor producers..to make too salty/too sweet foods that are killing is[are they productive?..PRODUCING..what..heart attack..in a plastic wrap?

<<food/shelter and clothing to survive>>
we and the beasts before/us..seemed to survive..just on nature
the fittest survived..because our breeding found satisfactions in productivity/that aided our 'surviving'

but now.producing is linked to consuming
[we work..not to survive/but consume..['bosses'/masters[our betters]..have re-programed/our minds]

please..see the bones..of the point

<<..If we all were very busy..counting beans,..we would not survive.>>
<<..it is critical that what we do produces something..that enables us to survive.>>

please..able..killed one sheep..presented/the fat[a good Sheppard/puts on his lamb/not by sugary food/BUT FINDING GOOD FOOD]

OK CAIN/NO DOUBT COUNTED THE BEAN SEEDS AS HE WAS PLANNING TO 'COOK'/THEM..but who's 'productivity'..did god respect[that of a good Shepard/who even/by killing..yet..was/revealed..2b/the better carer.

<<Money only has value..if it is linked to productivity.>.

please/producer[MY NAME IS INVESTOR..[I INVESTED/EXTENSIVELY..IN 'MONEY'..know money..in fact/will give you lots more money..just for money[ie..present..to me a two dollar star note..I WILL GIVE YOU 50 BUCKS..[IF ITS SIGNED..BY THE RIGHT TREASURER..I WILL GIVE YOU 100/CASH]..SEE/WIKISEED/WIKIGELD/MING MECHANIC.

WHERE THE LINK/TO PRODUCTIVITY?

<<..bean-counters..edited..<<they are not producing/anything..that they can purchase.>>

please see..that if you want//their Beans..you need to find..what they will take..for their beans..[2B..CTD]

if they only accept/their own money..you need earn their money..from them[by producing something they will give beans or money to own

like that..new Ferrari?

<<..it can be argued..that the wealth
of this country is directly linked to productivity.>>

ok..im waiting..[lets use london-derry as the main example
no/farming mining/fields just bean counters..they have long lunches..and just talk/PRODUCE NOTHING BUT DEBT..that kills productivity/globally..YET..PER CUBIC CENTIMETER..THEY GOT MORE WEALTH THAN ALL THE ORE IN CHINA

BUT CHINA PRODUCTIVITY..HAS EARNED QUADRILLIONS..OF THEIR PAPERS
but how much more paper/promise..doth china need?..how long will they give product/for paper?

<<>.Activities[edit]..create jobs..but do not produce anything within the country..and therefore..are non-productive activities...It can be argued that some these activities..can bring wealth into the country.>>

IS THE 'WEALTH'..TRUE MEASURE OF VALUE..OR WORTH?

<<..For example foreign tourism..EDITED]..does not create wealth...If Australia was full..of local tourists..all we would have is..a lot of starving nomads.>>

PRE-THE LONDON/DERRY REJECTS ARRIVING..ON THESE SHORES/WE WERE DOING JUST FINE/NOMADICING..around aussie for 50,000 years..living of these productive lands/fruits.

the tourists..took away.our lands bounty[kiled all the fishing fromm botany bay..so now we need work for their pickled pork

<<.I call these group parasites..>>
LONDONER/COLONIZERS..YEP ME TOO

<<..as they need a productive host to survive.>>
YEP..WE THINK..WE NEED/THEIR 'PRODUCT'/PROD-UCE/BUT NEED WORK..FOR THEIR PAPER\MONEY/THEY SELL IT FOR.

<<..There are good parasites that are desirable.>>

SURE..OUR BODIES..FOR EXAMPLE..NEED THE MOLDS
BUGS WORMS..INSIDE US TO..LIVE
KILL THE BIOTA..WE DIE

<<..A healthy producer..will live longer>>
IF HE DON'T DIE..ON THE WAY/TO WORK[OR GET KILLED ON THE JOB[OR IF HE DON'T DIE FROM THE POISONS HE IS PAID RISK MONEY TO WORK WITH

<<>>and produce more

UNLESS HIS JOB IS KILLING HIM..[OR HIS JOB IS Killing]

<<..Providing we don’t get overloaded with parasites>>
IE THE BANKERS/MONEY CHANGERS//LAWYERS/BUREAUCRACY/public servants
*NOT HEALTH WORKERS..they are the good ones,..they can/do contribute in a positive way.

<<If all income is linked to productivity>>
please lets stop this..con-fusion..of wage..[productivity]..value adding..[versos]..income..[profiteering]..asset stripping

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=define+income+not+wage&
the Supreme Court has defined income so as to exclude wages.

productive seductive/quote..<<..Activities such as tourism, entertainment,/advertising,/law..and accounting..create jobs but do not produce anything..within the country..and therefore are non-productive activities.>>

putting names..on things..how is this productive
if tourism..brings a bill ghates/or some other investor[say gm/ford..or some banking institution[giving away [god forbid]..free money/who is to determine how.tourism..BOUGHT IN THAT VALUE

MANY TOURISTS..BRING IN..THEIR/CRAFT.cash/SKILLS/NEGOTIATION SKILLS
like tourist isnt..a breed or a race/..OR SEX..but the curious inventive..type/of types

what of..the entertainer who writes..a boardwalk play..or a song
thing is..the most productive inventors..APPEAR TO BE MEDITATING..on/a\[patent-right/brief..RATHER THAn PROCESS/processing..or PRODUCING..ON THE PRODUCTION LINE

TOURISM..<<..it does not..create wealth...>>
FORGIVE ME/..BUT TOURISTS SPEND..MONEY..NO DOUBT MANY GET Rich..on tourist SPENDING UP BIG..be it..on fluffy knickknacks..or floating HIGH..driving..INtp THE SKY.

<<>.If Australia..was full..of local tourists
all..we would have..is a lot of starving nomads.>>

not really..think/GREY/NOMADS\they love..eating/drinking..there is money in feeding HOUSING..AND ENTERTAINING THEM..[GLOBALLY]..MANY GET RICH/ENTERTAINING..THE MONEYED ELITES[

YES MANY TOO..WENT BROKE]

damn capitals

<<..I call these..group parasites..as they
need a productive host to survive.>>

so do producers..who want to SELL THEIR PRODUCE
or the producers..who want to sell..their MILK OR SALT..or meat

we all need productive hosts..to buy our work/trouble is scamers work has higher return/for little or no outlay..big payoff low over heads./productive?..depends WHO THEY GIVE..THE CASH TO.

<<..If all income..is linked to productivity..and the producers..are the ones that are most rewarded..it will be..more desirable to become a producer.>>

please read page 153/154..159

http://www.ghostcircle.com/ebooks/JSM_Ward%20-%20Gone_West.pdf

IM FINE..WITH..<<..draw the minimum wage..but still must participate meaningfully..in their community for..a certain amount of time..to receive it...They can then use..the rest,,of their time to study.>>

<<..it is critical..such a scheme is controlled.at a community level.>>..MONITORING THE SATISFACTION...REWARDING ACTIVITY GIVES

<<..mentors live in a community..>>
STEP TO FAR

BUT YES MENTORS[CYBER/IF NEED..BE]..<<>.to assist in establishment and transition.>>GET BOOKINGS OR MARKET THEIR PRODUCT

<<..There would be concerns,..>>FROM THE BIG-END..OF TOWN..<<...with the corruption and waste..at the little end of town..>>[WATCH THEM/NOT ME..COMPLEX

<<..and the need for it to be controlled.>>NOT THEM

<<>.I think you would agree..there is more waste..>>
LOOTED VALUES/LOST PRODUCTIVITY
AND THAT..BIG-end..has most of the..BAILOUTS/
problems LURKS PERKS..LAWYERS..sellouts,..skives..bonus

<<..and corruption..at the big end of town>>..

BUT/THEY\..GOT..LAWYERS...
[MANKINDs..biggest threat....
is a fool/protected/..by lawyers.

Producer, is art "productive"?

Did the Beatles, Alfred Hitchcock, Robert Louis Stevenson or Michelangelo help us "survive"?

Should they been growing potatoes instead?
Useless parasites!

Shockadelic – The Beatles where entertainers and produced music. Apple records also produced records!

Hitchcock – The director/producer was an entertainer as well. He produced movies!

Stevenson – the novelist produced novels!

Michelangelo – the sculptor, painter, architect, poet, and engineer of the High Renaissance produced too much to mention!

I don’t know where you get the idea that they are not producers?

However if they were all hungry the humble potato grower would be the pick of the bunch wouldn’t you say. After all they don’t call them primary producers for nothing.

Now if you said an ambulance chasing lawyer, many corporate CEO’s, consultants, lobbyists, dodgy politicians and bankers, that a different matter.

Now don’t get me wrong, I am not saying that these professions should not have a right to exist. They should not however be receiving a disproportionate share of the productive wealth as many, you must agree do.

I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter.