PAUL/WROTE/QUOTE..[JUST FOR FUN?]

<<>.A question,..what is most important in a car
the motor or the petrol...>.

cl;early the moter
its the moter that makes it a moter car

wether the car goes[or not]..dont change
what it is..[ie a motorcar]

BUT YOUR NO time waster/so
..lets find.your further teaching

<<>. Both very different commodities,>>

ah/haa..the motor oil masybe a commodity
but the moter..isnt a consume-able..[being combustible]

<<..but without either the car does not run,>>

ahhh/ha..cars cant run[no legs]
they rock/and roll..rolong to and fro/but lets let that go

<<..with both the car runs,...which one contributes the most to make the car run,..therefore which one is the most important?>>

without a driuver/that car aint going no where

<<..The answer is neither..make the car run,>>[carts dont run]

<<..both make the car run,..therefore logically
both are of equal importance..in the overall running of the car.>>.

sure
but without the logic motivation[read driver]..
that thing aint running no where anytime soon..no matter how much petrol..nor how many moters..we all need the driver/and thats what the holy spirit does

as we watched him..doing..we learned the doing ourselves
unseen is the ego emoting[ie our spirit guides/leading us on by emotive EMOTING/WE ARELED BY OUR SENSES/THEY DETERMINE THE LIMITS WE SET UPON OUR ABILITY TO DRIVE[SORRY RUN']

OH WEWLL ITS BEEN FUN
FORGIVE ME THE FUN OF THE PUN
ITS JUST a driver less auto..wont go..fast nor slow
[why is it so?]..we need a head..to be fully productive
and currently we are running around..like headless crooks..get educated/then educate

http://rss.infowars.com/20140407_Mon_Alex.mp3

know/the truth..it shall set u free/unlike fuel thats been over priced

Paul1405 – I have no major issues with your analogy.

I would use car and mechanic, rather than petrol and motor.

My point is that the car will still run without a mechanic. With a competent mechanic you would expect the car to run better, longer and more economically.

This analogy and the one I used above with the orchestra would suggest the car and the orchestra are more important that the mechanic and conductor. Logically there would be no use for a mechanic or conductor without the car and the orchestra.

I also have issues with the issue of equality. This concept raises the ghost of communism which like capitalism is a fail experiment.

I maintain proportionality is a far better method to distribute productive wealth. Everybody gets enough, no one gets too much and it can be targeted to increase or decrease desirable and undesirable activities.

Eyes tight shut, fingers in ears, no wonder dills like Paul have no idea of the facts of life. I give you case studies of a couple of tupney hapney business I ran, just to try to give you some idea of the business world, & I get that crap.

Why on earth would I bother big noting myself to the likes of you. With your closed brain, you would never understand.

Producer your Woolworths example is perfect, except that the store management have exactly no input into the stock they carry. That is dictated by head office, probably by a fairly sophisticated computer program. If management get that wrong, bankruptcy surely will follow.

Producer, you miss one point in your orchestra analogy. If the management chose to play the wrong music, at the wrong venue, no amount of musicianship can save that orchestra from going broke.

I once attended a concert by perhaps 25% of the Queensland symphony orchestra in a park in Cairns. Nothing too highbrow, the acoustics were dreadful, & they probably weren't the best musicians in the company, but it was an incredible concert. No symphony orchestra could have produced great music in a bandstand designed for brass bands, in a park, in the tropics, but it was really great. A good management decision, if not too good artistically.

Think of house building. A great tradesman can build a great house, but no bunch of laborers will build a good house from a pile of wood, & some nails. However add one good foreman, & prefabricated trusses & wall frames, & those laborers can do a great job, but with out the foreman, just like the chicken after it's head is cut off, it is all over.

haSBEEN/has been making a great point
<<..with out the foreman,..its
just like the chicken..after it's head is cut off,>>

and thats where mankind is today
there are many sceemers looting and plundering

ie..this means..the sheeple got no leaders

<<>.it is all over.>>

yep wwe are all awaiting the end game
4 cRACKUP/CURRENT AFFAIR LAST NIGHT TALKED OF THIS..topic
said far worse than you put it first post..anyhow

it will be only as bad as our leaders allow it to become

hth can end it in a second/her and the pope
simply decree that those sworn/to serve her and her commonwealth
go in over night/to seize/secure and prepare the assets..that all upper management..is officially on holidays on full pay.

its by proper assurance
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6152&page=0#178808
http://whatreallyhappened.com/podcasts/hourtitle1.m3u

chief ex-i-cute.ioniser

Hasbeen – I thought Paul1405 metaphorical representation was reasonable and contributed to the discussion. By the way the Woolworths example was Paul1405s not mine. I don’t know if that was a typo or poorly managed by you.

On the contrary Hasbeen, you miss one point in my orchestra analogy which by the way did not mention management. However if the management chose to play the right music, at the right venue, no amount of management can save that performance from going broke if there was no orchestra.

This is silly I know but it illustrates management cannot function without the orchestra. The orchestra could function without management. I do concede good management may result in a superior performance.

My comments are the same with regard to your house analogy. I do concede good management may result in a superior house. You don’t mention that bad management may result in an inferior house and good tradesmen that are self-managed may produce a superior house more cost effectively.

My point still is that these professions and others should have a right to exist. They should not however be receiving a disproportionate share of the productive wealth as many do.

Producer "I don’t know where you get the idea that they are not producers?"

Because nothing artists do helps us "survive" (which was *your* definition of valuable production).

I we never saw another film or heard another song in our life, we would still "survive".

The money diverted to art/entertainment could be more "productively" used in more substantial enterprises.

"a disproportionate share of the productive wealth"

Do you really think the Beatles billions was "proportionate" to their services?

Lawyers and bankers serve a more "useful" service than Lady Gaga.
People need court representation and legal advice, they need a secure place to store their money.
They don't need meat dresses.

Oh, but Gaga *is* worthless, while the Beatles are unquestionable geniuses, I hear you say.

That is *your* personal evaluation.
Others may think differently, and will say so by how they spend their dollars.
Consumers decide what's "desirable and undesirable".

"I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter."

I personally don't dispute anyone's presence in the economy.
They must satisfy some needs/desires or they wouldn't be doing what they do.
*You* are the one dividing the world into useful and useless people.

"What is more important and valuable the conductor or the orchestra?"

The composer.

"you miss one point in my orchestra analogy which by the way did not mention management"

Ah, the conductor?